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The plaintiff says that Microsoft's tactic of "forced obsolescence" is an "attempt to monopolize the generative AI market."

Case file: https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/klein-v-microsoft-san-diego-complaint.pdf

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[–] ApeNo1@lemmy.world 122 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I would not pursue the path of suing for not supporting a legacy operating system, but instead focus on the forced obsolescence of hardware blocking people moving to Windows 11 on millions of computers that are still perfectly functional.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 96 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Do you not remember Microsoft saying Windows 10 was going to be the last operating system? They literally said they were going to move to continuous updates.

[–] ApeNo1@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Tech companies say a lot of things at points in time but having personally spent 3 decades in the industry, the one thing you can rely on is that they will always chase the money. If it means breaking old promises they will do that in a heartbeat and use marketing to spin it as something great for users.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Problem is saying shit like that has consequences.

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They kind of have done it though, even now I can upgrade a 10 computer to 11 IF it has the hardware. So from a license level it's effectively what they promised, it's the hardware reqs that are the problem. If they left the name the same we could be sitting at the same issue with the latest "10 Forever" updates being blocked by hardware requirements.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But that’s just it. There’s no reason for the extra hardware requirements they added to 11 other than to force a bunch of users onto new computers, on top of the fact that they’re making it more and more difficult to use Windows without the Internet.

Why are we defending their decisions when all they do is take from us?

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I'm not "defending" shit. But there are holes in the argument when coming from this direction. If we want to win, we have to have a concrete argument.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

They kind of have done it though[:] even now I can upgrade a 10 computer to 11 IF it has the hardware.

That's not continuous updates.

Upgrade != Update

[–] haroldfinch 14 points 4 days ago

For anyone wondering what Microsoft actually said about Windows 10 being the last version: https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-may-be-last-version-windows-microsoft-rethinks-operating-system

And no, they didn't it'd be the last Windows. They said it'd be the last traditional release before moving on to "Windows as a Service".

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Lmao microsoft is such a scum company, always has been.

Lying thieves

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I understand that Microsoft never officially said this. It was a comment by an MS employee who was not in a position to make such a claim.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Would be an argument if we weren't talking about software that was sold with the promise it would be suported

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It’s not really legacy though in the same way that previous versions of Windows have been when they went EOL. Microsoft switched to an “agile” workflow for Windows around 2017, the current version of Windows 10, 22H2, is not quite 3 years old.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Yup, you could skip Vista by using XP until windows 7, and you could skip windows 8 by sticking with windows 7 until 10 came out.

Now they're forcing people to get every version even if they put out a shit version of windows.

Also computers aren't ramping up in hardware performance like they used to so a lot of people who would buy a new computer every so often and the new one would just come with a new version of windows... they aren't doing that any more.

Also there's tarrifs, inflation, and a lot of people just can't afford a new computer. So this is a perfect storm of windows suckiness.