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Edit: Article about what happened: https://sanfernandosun.com/2025/06/25/pacoima-tamales-vendor-suffers-a-heart-attack-during-ice-raid/

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 73 points 3 days ago (23 children)

Speaking up isn't going to do anything. It's like walking up to your bully and politely asking them to stop hurting you.

Take a wild guess what ICE, MAGA, and fascists respect? If you answered anything other than "violence" you are part of the reason why this is allowed to happen.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 days ago (19 children)

History shows that when just 3.5 percent of a population—about 12 million Americans—engage in peaceful protest, their demands become nearly impossible to ignore. This is particularly relevant today, as Americans continue to defend due process and health care rights amid a rise in authoritarian policies.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/how-peaceful-protest-by-just-3-5-percent-of-americans-could-force-major-policy-changes-from-the-trump-administration/

But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.

And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.

If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/42969194

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Oh I'm sorry, did the No Kings protest end Turnip's push for autocracy?! Are the fascists defeated now because enough people voiced their opinion!?

Your ignorance is cute, but absolutely pathetic in the face of reality.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Baby, I hope you're posting this comment from inside a tent after a long day of training with your guerilla resistance militia, because it's horseshit and classist to dump on people who are actually doing something, even if that something is just the beginning of what should be done.

I cannot begin to express how over I am hearing the opinions of anyone who has already given up. Playing Red Dawn with your little pistols and rifles and mail-order TEMU body plate armor isn't going to save you against a global military hedgemon with more autonomous missiles than taxpaxong citizens. If you have theory that will fix all this, then get the fuck out there and put it into action and convince us with results. Jesus Christ.

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