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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 210 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah that's fucked. If you are going to let people say "No Christians" or "No Muslims" then "No Zionists" ought to be allowed.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 224 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Zionism isn't even an actual religious belief. It is a political one. A desire for a specific outcome and policies to support it

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

So it should be even less protected

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity's since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.

Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.

Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just to confirm for you (from an atheist jew) yes zionism is also concerned with atheist jews. Also, yeah people should absolutely be allowed to say no zionists, I certainly wouldn't want to date someone who doesn't care about Palestinians.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

TBH, I don't know why a zionist would want to date someone who'd even put "no zionists" in their profile in the first place if anything this is just encouraging everyone to waste their time.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of young right wingers are complaining that people knowing their political stances makes it hard to date. They're hoping to trick people into dating them, effectively.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't see how this would matter though. In a dating app, someone who refuses to date zionists will notice if pro-zionism is on their profile and not match with them or even block them. If there is no mentioned zionism on the rightwinger's profile and the rightwinger is trying to trick people into dating them whether the anti-zionist is able to post "No Zionists" on their profile is immaterial, the rightwinger will try to match with them regardless.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

If a large portion of people are putting it in their profiles, NOT putting it can make you stand out?

If no one can, they won't stand out. Sure they could lie, but now they don't have to

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

That's not the reason for it. They want to ensure it isn't normalized. If you start seeing a lot of people openly saying they're anti-zionist, people who seem reasonable and generally agree with you, then you may consider that the propoganda you've been fed saying it's wrong inst accurate.

[–] Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that's anisemitism please ban and arrest

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean "No Jews" is allowed so its not even that they're worried about antisemitism.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No, no, antisemitism isn't about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/

Though thats how alot of people treat it...

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Antisemitism is everything I don't like.

[–] Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

In fact many Zionist are antisemitic. They want Jewish people to have their own nation so that they'll go live there instead of near them.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not all Zionists are Jews. Humanity really needs to stop our imperialistic ways. Every piece of land is accounted for and to get more you have to bury the people who reside on it.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 6 points 2 days ago

Or start building underwater cities!

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The vast majority aren't

[–] Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

that's also true

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just fyi, the slash in /s or /sarcasm isn't some weird bracket, it's meant as an XML style closing tag, meaning "end of sarcasm". In full it would look as follows:

<sarcasm>Things are going great!</sarcasm>

But people drop the opening tag and the <> for convenience.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, the / has nothing to do with xml. It's a fake IRC command.

They were all in the style of /commandname.

You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

Speak for yourself

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago

I'm aware of slash commands. If it's a /sarcasm command, why would it be at the end of the statement?
What's your source for this? I'm pretty sure "/s" means "end of sarcasm", borrowed from XML/HTML.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I don't remember ever seeing /s on IRC.
It's always meant </sarcasm> to me.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago

I get no Jews as in people of Jewish faith but no Jews as in the ethnicity would get iffy fast. No blacks or no whites or no mulattoes or whatever can be a bit oof even though everyone has their preference

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More importantly, what's a Zionist doing on Grindr? Nethaniadolf doesn't seem the type to be very rainbow friendly.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, not every zionist likes Netanyaho. In fact I think even among them the majority dislike him because basically most of almost every group dislikes Netanyaho ATM. Hes only still in power because of political leverage, fear, etc. Sort of a "Hes a evil psychopath but what if we get instability in this turbulent war time by removing him?"

Also I've 100% encountered zionist LGBT people on dating apps. They've been either Jewish or Centrist Libs.

Or because of "poor relations" between Islam and LGBT... Which is mostly just any religion and LGBT. Seeing zionism as a lesser evil to Islamic fundamentalism that they associate with Palestinian Nationalism.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

There are quite a few magats and conservatives on there.