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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 90 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable.... which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!

Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.

Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel's actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.

Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn't mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.

Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn't to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.

I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not... that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak....

“It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”

Don't mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories... no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.

Judging by the rest of your comment, I think you meant anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.

With that said, I agree wholeheartedly.

[–] Pissmidget@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personally I've always found it quite antisemitic to prescribe all people of the Jewish faith the opinions of the state of Israel, and in turn hold them accountable for the states actions.

When people say anti Zionism is equivalent antisemitism that's what they are doing, and in turn removing all agency from people of the Jewish faith.

I have yet to ask people who make the argument about this though, but I assume it'd be a shitstorm.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For sure. Zionism itself is very anti-Semitic for that reason.

I was correcting a typo in the post above.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I don't agree that zionism is anti-semitic per se, because it's possible to be a zionist without implying all jews are zionists.

[–] Pissmidget@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be directed at you as if you held the opinion. I can see how it could be read like that.

It was meant as more of an apropos to your comment.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

oops yes thank you!