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That is left up to the states. And even if there are many who assign all of their electors to whoever won that states popular vote, the national popular vote is a useless metric for anything other than bragging rights. Losing by 31 out of 50 states is not a close election, it's a blowout.
And again, what have the states largely decided?
"The popular vote means nothing" is just as fucking stupid as thinking the popular vote means an automatic victory.
Yet a shift in the vote, so long as it's not running up numbers by doing endless fucking rallies in useless places like fucking California (thanks, Hillary), is generally a national shift, resulting in state majorities or pluralities shifting.
Your claim was, and I quote:
If you think that a 2% shift in the national vote was impossible and beyond the realm of reason, to the point of characterizing it as Harris not having a chance, you're out of your fucking gourd.
It apparently means a lot to you. I'm not sure why. It means jack shit in a US presidential election.
If this is how you talk about states that went the way you wanted them to, I'm starting to think you're just an angry person who is angry at everything. Have you considered therapy?
You're acting like trump didn't lose the popular vote and win the election last time and I'm not sure why you're doing that because he did.
I think a 2% shift in the national vote would have been irrelevant because, as we've covered already, the popular vote doesn't decide the race.
Harris lost Arizona by 5 points, North Carolina by 3 points, Nevada by 5 points, Pennsylvania by 3 points, Ohio by 11 points, Florida by 11 points. If 2% more people voted for Harris nationwide the result would be a trump presidency with a slightly smaller difference in the popular vote for you to seethe about.
Harris didn't have a chance. Know how I know? Because she fucking lost.
Lord.
... we're literally discussing strategy right now. Running up votes in a safe state is fucking useless. For someone who's beating their chest about how 'realistic' they're being, that's an awfully simple thing to miss.
Where am I pretending that? Feel free to quote me, genius.
She lost Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia all by ~2%. Winning Pennsylvania (48.6% vs. 50.3%) and 2 of the other 3 would have given her victory. Sorry that you're so ill-informed, but I understand that masturbatory cynicism is preferable to folk like you over actual analysis of events.
... what fucking bizarre circular logic.
Ok champ