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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The issue is that only some of them intrinsically want to get gud. They want other people to do the shit they don't want to do. They're happy to let a robot do the stuff they're bored by but there are things that for some reason some teachers think is super important every student learn but are actually just shit the teacher is emotionally attached to. I know, I work at an after school program. We have no curriculum but most of my fellow counselors are also teachers (or substitute teachers) and they are obsessed with getting ALL of the kids to care about every topic they teach. I get along with them interpersonally, and one is even my friend but they are petty tyrants with the kids IMO and I get into methodological arguments with them here and there.

Most kids have a niche, I say let them focus on it. Not try and force all of them to be jack of all trades unless its bare bones basics of functioning (Reading, writing, math, scientific method/reasoning).

I remember being a kid that loved reading and writing, did great (lots of 100s or at least 90+) at generic vocab/english assignments and the like. But then whenever I had to read a book I did not give a shit about or write an essay about something I had zero interest in it was like I was trying to telepathically push an mountain with a single functioning neuron. I just couldn't do it at all so I'd get zeros on those assignments.

The moment the book seemed cool or the writing topic was fairly open ended I usually did fantastic and even surprised teachers in a few cases. Had it been available to me I 100% would of ChatGPT'd the shit I did not care about but I'd totally do the stuff I was intrinsically interested in anyways without ChatGPT.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hated it when teachers would get narcissistic. But in universities it becomes a huge issue. There are computer science majors in my campus that are bored by math and programming so use chatgpt.

They are bored by the degree they chose themselves. So instead of changing degree plan or learning to enjoy it as a hobby like you would normally do, they just cheat.

Professors' workarounds are worse. Universities do not execute any "academic dishonesty" actions because they are the ones giving students free chatgpt account after a deal with openai.

So professors either use AI flaggers that give false positives and give everyone 0, or more commonly just give extremely hard exams to offset homework grade inflation.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

They are bored by the degree they chose themselves. So instead of changing degree plan or learning to enjoy it as a hobby like you would normally do, they just cheat.

I mean, a lot of people go into a degree because of the promise for jobs even if they aren't into it. Especially computer programming.

I was one, I could have tried getting a Software Design degree but everyone and their brother wanted to be a designer and there was like a tenth of the number of jobs available for such a position. So I went for software programming instead. Which turned out to be its own mistake.