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Show transcript3 panel meme. First panel: "I made a new internet slang". Second panel: "New or misused AAVE?" Third panel: "Misused AAVE".

the other 20% is either 4chan incel language or something trump tweeted in 2017

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Thanks, I had no clue what AAVE was either. I guess we're not calling it jive anymore and have to use acronyms to make it more confusing? Is the word "Jive" racist now or something?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Jive, ebonics, and other terms were used as slurs by racists in the same way they are using woke and DEI as slurs now. Jive was a specific subset, and I think AAVE is the new term for ebonics. The longer name and acronym are to make it clear what it is referring to.

Jive has probably been out of the spotlight long enough that the racists won't recognize it, but I wouldn't recommend using it unless you know what it is actually referring to.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it racist in the context of "i dont jive with that"? Never thought of the etynomics of the word

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that or 'jive turkey' are likely to get any pushback like using it to describe black people talking would. Context matters.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Appreciate it. I have never heard of that word in any context other than what i mentioned, so it must not be oart of the local lexicon or it was before my time.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If this doesn't ring a bell, it might be before your time.

image from the movie airplane where an old whife lady offers to translate for teo blsck men by saying "I speak jive"

(The scene was making fun of racist stereotypes.)

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's an amazing scene, specially when it's June Cleaver as the woman speaking jive.

[–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Legend is June Cleaver helped write the lines for the man to say and coached him on the pronunciation.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jive is such a good sounding word though, this kinda sounds like white knighting similar to Latinx where no one from that group was asking for a new label lol.

Idk tho, cis white man, who am I to say

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This label isn't being imposed on anyone, it is just the term used in academia to describe a certain way of communicating.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

AAVE is an umbrella term for a variety of dialects that developed in African American Communities. Jive is specificic to Harlem in the 30s and 40s but I guess people started using it to refer to all AAVE.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 2 days ago

What are you, some sort of jive turkey?

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

jive sounds like it's a collection of slang when it's actually a distinct dialect