MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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Is this far-left hate politics in the room with us right now?
This is a webforum. I'm not in the same room as you.
... man, we're in MeanwhileonGrad, where such luminary views are on display as "Ukronazis deserve to be murdered, critical support for Russian imperialism!"
You can say that they aren't really leftists - and I'm not entirely inclined to disagree - but there's a definite self-identified leftist element of legitimate insane hate that goes around.
Yes, but more often "far-left hate" is a dog whistle for anti-Zionism, because tankies just aren't such a major political phenomenon as to warrant a mention along with the far-right. Also the person I replied to is a known Zionist, so I'm not inclined to interpret their statement charitably.
Ah so you're keeping lists of "known zionists" now?
You're in a political group that maintains an enemies list. You got a list of Jews and known sympathizers of Jews on your enemies list. At what point are you going to start asking "are we the baddies?"
If the facts are on your side you don't need to keep track of those that disagree with you. You don't need to engage in harassment campaigns. You actually want to discuss the issues with those that disagree with you because that discussion would prove you to be right.
Your group engages in harassment campaigns because you know the facts aren't on your side.
BTW, you're not on my enemies list, because I don't have one. I don't need to use the tactics you use because your own words prove you to be in the wrong.
Wow. Do you intend to burn these strawmen together with your effigy of Yitzhak Rabin or are they so you can imagine you're shooting Palestinian children in the head?
I'm sure that sounded like something in your head, but what are you even talking about? Are you acussing me of shooting Palestinian children?
This is just a web forum, calm your tits.
I don't know if you're a Zionist personally because I haven't looked into it, but pattern recognition is absolutely a useful tool. When the same ghouls who bootlick the Holodomor come out and start spreading edge-case bullshit about other issues, knowing that they're genocide-denying ghouls helps contextualize what they're saying and give the appropriate amount of pushback; something that might be overkill for someone who's just innocently ignorant.
If someone who denies the Holodomor, for example, starts talking about how they heard about far-right paramilitaries in Ukraine influencing the country, they're much more likely to be utter ghouls playing dumb. Whereas someone who does not deny the Holodomor saying the same might be a guy who half-remembered one article on Ukraine in 2015 and simply doesn't have up-to-date or in-depth knowledge on the subject.
Yes, and I hear a lot about how the far right Jews are influencing the West. I also hear about how the far left Jews are influencing the West. It all depends on which audience these narratives are being promoted to. I hear these narratives all the time these days.
Which of these narratives are you promoting? The far-right narrative or the far right narrative? It doesn't matter it's all the same. From pattern recognition (LOL) I'm going to say you're one of the ghouls promoting these narratives to rationalize why the evil acts perpetrated on October 7 were justified.
Ah, I didn't realize they were a Zionist.