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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (45 children)

Thank you. I really don't get those people.

And I mean, the Democratic party doesn't exist in a vacuum. If you don't try to change anything, of course the awful "moderates" stay in charge. But it is possible to overtake them, just look at Mamdani. But some people won't even try that because "it's a lost case"…

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (16 children)

The point is that socialism cannot be achieved by electoral means. At best, if the masses in the street really pressure those in power, you get social democracy. That being said the choice for Americans was neoliberalism or fascism. The reasons for fascism winning go deeper than "the left was to whinny", but that's beside the point being made here.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Okay, so, which is easier for socialists to organize under? Neoliberalism, or fascism?

[–] NoGenoSideR@lemmings.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Would you rather get lung cancer or rip off your left testicle?

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