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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This is setting off my bullshit detector. According to the article Les Wexner also sent him a letter with weird implications along with a similar doodle of tiddies to what's described in the trump letter. Apparently a former assistant wrote him an Accrostic poem that looks like it was written by a 2nd grader who's pretty checked out of the assignment.

"Dershowitz’s letter included a mock-up of a “Vanity Unfair” magazine cover with mock headlines such as “Who was Jack the Ripper? Was it Jeffrey Epstein?” He joked that he had convinced the magazine to change the focus of an article from Epstein to Bill Clinton."

This stuff is all childishly on the nose and as a longtime Epstein Investigator who knew about this shit in the Obama days before it was cool, this is not how Les would operate writing a letter saying 'I wanted to get you what you want...so here it is...' along with a Dennis Reynolds style drawing of some tits doesn't really fit with any other correspondence he's had and is just too obvious. Same with Dersh...anyone really see him making a fake magazine cover and sending it to a friend?

We've also seen Trump's writing style a LOT and this is very much not it. Same with the naked lady drawing. I don't see as him as he put it 'writing pictures'. No fucking way hes ever drawn a single thing ever.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 24 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You make a strong point, and it makes me wonder why this story is appearing in a Murdoch paper in the first place. Is the move to retract it later and apologize to Trump to try to make Trump seem innocent and make the Epstein story go away?

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 12 points 13 hours ago

Trump has been saying for days now that there's all this fake stuff and it's a hoax, so news coming out that is just very on the nose which will be proven to be fake is a perfect tactic to get people to doubt the rest. It's not about proof, but about giving people a license to disagree: making it socially acceptable to say the Epstein shit is fake with regards to Trump and other famous people.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ad revenue. It'll get clicks.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, I get that newspapers generate attention through big scoops, but I have to point out again that this is a Rupert Murdoch paper. His media has backed Trump hard for nearly a decade.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago

Murdoch has turned against Trump occasionally when it suits him. Idk why now though. Maybe they soured on him because of something else like the tariffs and this was the time to strike. Maybe they're trying to realign with Musk? Its certainly not directly over Trump's connection to Epstein. The simple clickbait motive should be the default IMO.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

I couldn't reallt begin to speculate tbh. Could be exactly what you said, could just be something got past a middle manager cause clicks were below quota that month. I dunno

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Its super sus. I doubt the documents are fabricated but they aren't giving us the whole picture. If the whole picture was so damning they would've whipped it out years ago. WSJ doesnt explicitly state the letter was written or signed by Trump but that can be them protecting themselves from lawsuits.

It doesn't sound like Trump at all but at the same time this would've been a younger and more lucid Trump. He also loves Broadway, so writing dialogue might be a thing he does. But this

Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?

is straight pizzagate fodder. Who the fuck was just sitting on this for years???

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 19 hours ago

I remember younger Trump. He has been a public figure for a long damn time. He loves fashion shows and has dressed like shit forever, he likes McDonald's but quit after working one shift. He likes the consumption side of things. I don't see him writing dialogue and I especially don't see him drawing.

Its all too stupid and seems real hoaxy