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A Reddit comment by user “Damichia480” in the “Conservative” subreddit reads:
It too late he straight up broke every campaign promise.
“No new wars” Bombed iran and is about to fund Urkaine like Biden did
“Mass deportation” not enough and is keeping the illegal immigrants working as slaves and H1B
“I will release the Epstien files” “The flies on my desk” - Pam Bondi. Recanted everything he said and say there no flies and Republicans BLOCKED the release
Patel was hired to take care of the deep state but he is no different from them
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
RIP MAGA we been terribly lied to and betrayed by the people that shouldve served us but they devolved into being part of the establishment.
To all the liberals reading these diatribes from disillusioned MAGAs, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. Even if they feel betrayed by their glorious leader, the things he has done are still within the playbook that those people voted for.
They will never "come around" to seeing what is wrong. They just feel put out cause their sugar daddy didn't give them the car they wanted (the Epstein files). He will inevitably do something horrendous that will get them clapping along to the fascist tune again.
The original quote, "the enemy of my enemy if my friend" isn't about befriending your enemy, it's about using them to fight the bigger enemy.
The goal shouldn't be to get them to become progressive (right now) but to push on how they were wrong, and that Trump is a lie so that they can turn on Trump.
Most of these people are terrible people. But if they're infighting it's better for humanity than if they continue lock in step.
That's exactly my point though. They cannot be manipulated by anyone but Trump. They want to believe in him, therefore they will accept any excuse or bullshit he shovels out in their direction. Mark my words, they will be back on his side in no time. Nothing is more powerful than self-delusion.
Edit: further to my point, we need to stop trying to do anything with these people. We need to appeal to those who will not voted, who don't engage because they're sick and tired of politics as usual. People who are getting killed by our economy and don't like Trump, but they also don't like Democrats. We need more progressives and we need to get rid of the democratic party. Because their playbook was, is, and continually will be to try to appeal to conservative voters. New York City is a prime example of why. The Democratic party will pull out all the stops to try and prevent a progressive from taking an office. But they can't be bothered to stop a conservative. Just look at the pathetic showing they gave in opposition to that Ugly Ass Bill. They took selfies and posed with baseball bats and looked shocked and horrified as nearly every Republican voted it into law. But they didn't do a single real thing to try to stop it. Their attitude is, "well we'll get em in the mid-terms"... Meanwhile millions of Americans are going to lose health coverage and billionaires are going to line their pockets with that Medicaid money.
So you'd rather lose elections on principle than try and convince them to vote your way? Doesn't sound like a smart play to me.
They👏👏will👏👏never👏👏be👏👏convinced.
These people don't share values with you. They think immigrants steal jobs and commit all the crimes. They are extremely happy that the brown people are being herded into camps. They think that abortion clinics are killing babies on the government dime because the atheists want to eliminate Christianity. They are the ones pushing abortion bans across the country. These are not sane people. No matter how logical and fact based your argument, they will cling to their twisted views.
The way to win elections is to stop trying to appeal to these people and start investing time and money into the "socialist" policies that left wing voters are almost constantly asking for.
Both Hilary and Kamala tried to appeal to the right wing and it cost them and us. It's time to leave the right wingers in the dark where they are happy and focus on bringing the left wing back up out of the shadows because the fucking cold war is 30 years done and over. We no longer have to be scared of the words socialism and communism because there is no longer an iron curtain and the Russians are even more capitalist than we are at this point.
This. Exactly this.
The problem with being a rational person is that you have rational responses to ideas and problems and expect irrational people to also have those same rational responses, but all they can have are irrational responses. There is no convincing them. There is no appealing to their better angels.
I'm not saying appeal to them. I'm saying stop antagonizing them so you can feel morally superior.
It's easier to pass the legislation you want without telling the opposition they are morons if they don't support it.