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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

So i don't totally disagree with this view. I do want to point out that the thought Aliens would definitely uplift us isn't exactly foolproof.

If you think of a species civilization as an extension of their own sociology, and psychology. Which it kind of is. Like humans organize in certain ways due to how we function and whatnot. Then it's likely all species have slightly different civilizational structures. Or radically different ones. It might also not be something that's immediately obvious. Like it'd be hard to look at an entirely unique species, and figure out what their ideal socioeconomic structure would be.

So it might be best practices to let each species just sort it out on their own via natural selection. You can look at systems as a type of organism. They are born, and they die. Just like nations rise, and fall. It might just be necessary for each species to go through and find one that works for them. A long-term, stable, sustainable, socioeconomic model. If Aliens came down, and handed us their model that works for them it doesn't mean it would work for us. And any disruption might risk disaster. Like us being unable to ever find said model.

Also there is the aspect of species natural selection itself. If humanity can't find a stable long term model, and we are uplifted to an interstellar stage we could end up being a threat to other species. So letting us do our own thing might not be so much about for our own benefit, but for the long term stability of the galaxy itself.

From a human perspective humanity going extinct seems like a great loss. From an Alien perspective though if humans cause our own extinction it might be what should happen. If we can't manage to sort out our shit on a single planet then why would they want us fucking up more than 1?

You can combine these into a long term species viability factor. You let the species sort it's shit out on its home planet, and see if it has long term viability or if it will just wipe itself out. If it wipes itself out, well, that's how nature works. Species go extinct all the time. To prevent that artificially would basically just make us pets of some other species. Entirely reliant on them to keep existing. For a species that thinks in terms of millenia, or epochs when planning that would be a really big commitment to take on.

So them not wanting to have anything to do with us makes a lot of sense to me. Until we sort our own shit out anyway.