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Leaders such as Trump and Orbán could only be effectively opposed, she said, by ditching a “legalistic, technical, technocratic approach” in favor of “something for the electorate to be excited about”.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 4 days ago (5 children)

“What particularly rings out is how certain large media outlets or owners or large conglomerates try to appease Donald Trump by settling lawsuits or by firing journalists [or] editors,” he said. “It really resembles what happened in Hungary in the 2010s.”

This is why we’re fucked. Huge media corporations are selling us out rather than fight back against bullshit lawsuits from this corrupt administration. I blame you, ABC.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

The difference is that now conventional corporate media has a much weaker effect on people's beliefs now.

Now its corporate social media that is influencing our deep fried brains.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If I got right what you're saying (I might have misunderstood it), the situation is slightly different in Hungary. Instead of the media outlets and conglomerates trying to appease the governing party, it was actually an active takeover by direct and indirect government relationships/strawmen.

Slightly less relevant context:

spoilerBack when the popularity of Internet was on the rise in Hungary, one of the biggest news media sites was origo.hu. It got later bought out by a company that kept getting funds from one of the organisations handled by the later minister of finance. Nothing to see here.

One of the largest and most popular independent media sites, index.hu got also taken over in a similar fashion by Orbán's most infamous strawmen of the times, Lajos Simicska. Later on they had a falling out, and it was funny to see how suddenly his media took a 180, and in a phone call with a reporter he also called Orbán a scumbag (well, 'geci' /p.:~getsy/ was the actual term, which is a slur word for semen/cum, basically meaning scumbag, and the paraphrased 'Orbán egy geci' /Orbán is a 'geci'/ became a meme, but I'm meandering off). However, his control over these portals was taken over, and for a short while there were only one or two significant news/media sites independent from the party's control.

Huge media corporations are selling us out

So the situation here is rather similar; the only difference was that we're not the US, so let's take the 'us' out of the above.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Even that's slightly misleading because these media companies are also in the middle of merger talks so it's a bribe to further consolidate the already consolidated media landscape.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

We didn’t beat them senseless after 2016. It was obvious then.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Alfred Hugenburg energy. Literal nazi shit.