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I am begging reddit debate lords to actually learn what 'strawman' means, rather than treating the wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a list of magic incantations.
I am also begging them to just talk plainly: "You strawmanned me", rather than this insufferable nerd sarcasm bullshit of "sorry you strawman didn't work."
I mean if, we're being real, it was also a whataboutism. "What about what the democrats did?"
Get better.
Whataboutism is itself a thought-terminating cliché.
Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media's Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy
That's an interesting excerpt. I always thought the proper response to an identified whatabout is to simply say "I asked you first." -That's assuming the opposite party refused to respond to the initial premise, argument, or question. I imagine if they did respond to the initial premise, argument, or question then asking whatabout... is just a standard form of discussion and debate, or so I'd think.
The modern whataboutism is the bothsidesism.
Basically a straight up admition that they're both meaningless though terminating cliches
Do you lot insist on writing like the most annoying losers on earth deliberately?
You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!
You're on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!
I see you're now just going down the list of magic incantations you learned from Wikipedia.
Not to mention, doubling down on talking like the biggest reddit loser imaginable. How about you tell us about bacon and narwals next