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since yesterday.. oop: https://mathstodon.xyz/@johncarlosbaez/114816283089805862

article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/07/unless-users-take-action-android-will-let-gemini-access-third-party-apps/

haven't found a public google announcement, the screenshot seems to be from emails

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[โ€“] Lojcs@piefed.social 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Op please change the title as to not further fuel the misinformation. Arstechnica seems to enjoy burying the actual information 3 paragraphs in where they know nobody will read them and your embellishments aren't helping.

  1. There's nothing anywhere that suggests the ai is "remote controlled".

  2. Arstechnica suggests that humans have access to the data and as evidence they linked a site saying humans don't have access.

  3. Ars seems to want us to think the red rectangles in the image are contradictory. They aren't as Gemini Apps can be individually turned off independent of Gemini Apps Activity (history) and vice versa. The forced 3 day activity storage doesn't enable the apps themselves.

  4. Even the author of the article pointed out that it can be turned off

  5. Ars cites Tuta's article selectively to make it sound like disabling gemini is either ineffective or complicated. Tuta itself is a privacy focused gmail alternative with vested interest to muddy the waters but their article is still somewhat better written than Ars'

Edit: Title when this comment was written for posterity:

there is a remote controlled ai agent on every google device that can not be turned off

[โ€“] slate@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I like Ars, but this article is fearmongering trash. It's actually a positive move for privacy. "Gemini Apps Activity" is a setting that allows Google to store your Gemini interactions for analytics, human review, etc..., generally a privacy nightmare. However, with it off, Gemini can't even do basic stuff like setting a reminder. It's just a nonsense-spewing LLM with no assistant functionality. This update allows you to turn it off while still being able to do useful assistant stuff.

Google could have worded things better, but this is a move in the right direction.