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He's always wore sketchers. Like since he was 4. Recently, he got really emotionally taking about shoes he wanted for middle school. He said if he doesn't get Nikes he's going to get teased. Great fucking marketing work Nike.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 48 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Did you try to teach him to be proud of his independence and differences? Maybe you can work with him on nice come backs against the teasing.

[–] ElderReflections@fedia.io 83 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

As far as I remember (25 years ago), this doesn't work. Kids just don't appreciate witty comebacks

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I avoided bullying in school by being fucking oblivious. It was effective.

Maybe that could be taught

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It works if they're not comebacks, but actually hurtful insults.

They go hard, you go harder.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

That poor kid is getting beaten up lmao

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 31 points 18 hours ago

If anything they lean in and double down.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 44 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh man it’s like every out of touch bad advice I was given as a kid came back.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 hours ago

Being proud of your independence and difference is bad advice? What's your world like then, submitting and following others?

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 34 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Comebacks dont matter when you can just point at the shoes and call him broke (im not a teen anymore but come on guys lol, thats when you fit in to avoid issues or have issues, no magical way out)

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There is a way out, but it involves not caring what classmates think. That's a high bar for a lot of kids, especially in middle school. Kids have to come to that conclusion on their own. No amount of adults telling them "you shouldn't care" will change things.

By high school I found social success after not caring what others thought. But I had been bullied my whole school experience up til that point, so by high school I had run out of fucks to give. In other words, I learned the hard way, but that's something every teen has to figure out for themselves.

[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Is it even possible to not care at this age though? At this point school and interacting with your peers is a vast majority of your life. I don't think I have ever seen a kid being bullied every day at school and not caring. How can you not care if you're scared?

I guess it is possible as you get older, more mature and closer to adulthood. But for a kid in a primary or middle school? Kinda hard to imagine for me.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Oh, it's absolutely possible, but only after experiencing such abuse and isolation that you come to prefer your own company.

The last straw for me came when I finally stood up to my so-called "best friend," who acted perfectly sweet when we were alone, but who threw me under the bus whenever my bullies were around. Our families were (and sadly, still are) friends, so I'd known her since she was born and there was a lot of social pressure for us to hang out together. She abused me constantly and loved to fuck with my head. I figured that if that was the "best" friend I could have, then I didn't need friends at all. One day on the bus home, shortly after she'd spread yet another rumor about me, I called her a traitor and a backstabber.

She immediately turned to the bullies sitting behind us (whose hobbies included talking about me, stealing my stuff, and putting gum in my hair) and said, "That's so funny! She just called me a traitor!" Yep, I was done.

That was in my last year of middle school. Going into high school, I was resolved to not give a fuck what anybody said about me. I decided to stop trying to change myself to fit in. I embraced my own interests without a care what anybody would say.

And that first year of high school was when I ended up making actual, real friends for the first time. People who actually get me. The payoff was huge and still benefits me today, but it came at a great cost during my most impressionable age.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Yes, if they have already figured out how to handle bullies in grade school/middle school. Early grade school there was a bully who picked on me and my older brother helped out. By grade five I was the one helping other kids who were being bullied.

A lot of credit goes to youth groups like 4-H for helping to build self confidence and how to care for others. May have been lucky getting a solid local group though.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about now, but back in the 90s the magical out was that you punched them in the face.

Back then the concept of a school shooting didn't exist, and parents didn't threaten to sue the school every 5 minutes.

So teachers would just let the fights go.

"Oh, Billy tried bullying Bobby, and now Bobby punched Billy in the face? Eh....call me when they break bones and spill blood. I'm going to go make popcorn."

These days? I'm sure both kids would get expelled.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Yep. I was poor and weird but I was also 6 foot tall and pretty big. Its amazing what one really good punch to the face of someone does to your rep for the rest of high school.

[–] BorgDrone 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

But it’s not “his independence” if it wasn’t his choice to buy those shoes. You cannot be proud of your own choices when they weren’t your own choices.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 hours ago

I guess he had more than one pair and he could have been asking for the last ones.

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's actually a really good point you've made here. It's easy to defend the shoes as a parent because you're the one who (1) understands the rationale behind buying them and (2) made the decision to buy them

I wonder if a good decision in this scenario is to just give the child a shoe allowance and let them pick. If they want Nike's they will have to find a pair that fits the budget

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 hours ago

Kids this age are able to pexress what they want. While he probably didn't at 4, it's possible he agreed or even asked for the last ones he got.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago

he could be but hes gonna get roasted for sketchers til college probably