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ICE is starting a civil war, at some point they are going to start getting killed.
Pretty sure it's more a boiling frogs situation. If you're not at the point of putting yourself in mortal danger fighting ICE, it's likely your neighbors aren't either.
While the analogy fits pretty well with human nature, the premise is faulty: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog.
I'm not disputing your comment or what you're saying, I think you're right. Just thought you'd be interested in knowing the frog would jump out.
That's news to me regarding what the frog would do. So the revised meaning of boiling frog is to say that there is only so much pain a person or populace will tolerate before taking action. Not that by the time it's too hot it's too late.
Which is considerably more hopeful when you think about it. However the amount of damage already done is staggering.
Regardless of how we feel about frogs and stimuli my point that Americans don't have a breaking point vs ICE still stands.
“don’t have a breaking point” is very different from “haven’t hit their breaking point when I think they should have.”
But I think it is also important in this discussion to point out that many if not most Americans still live a privileged existence. And I am not talking shit about them; I am one of them! I know from experience that if I didn’t care about other people and didn’t like excellent Mexican restaurants, my life would not be at all changed (yeah I’m way up in Pennsylvania and they raided the place with the best food and nice people). Simply put, the people who need to feel the pain are not feeling the pain. The administration is still mostly hurting the “right” people.
I think the situation is horrifying and distressing. But if you’re a sociopath (i.e., a trumper who has not had the leopards target their face yet) who is a caucasian natural born citizen, and also an ignoramus who doesn’t watch news/history, you might just be one of those psychos looking forward to Trump’s third term.
Well I'm none of those things. But I do think you have a good point regarding perspective from privilege. I guess I actually do think Americans have a breaking point, one that is just too far off to be relevant because by then it'll be too late to avert severe consequences for everyone. But I could be very wrong, I'm biased, most Americans have it a lot worse than I do at any given time.
Says you.
Yup, that's the guy who said my comment. It was me.
You literally just said "Americans." You are speaking for Americans. You don't know what you said means?
Edit- Dude edited his message after getting called out for lying.
Before I edited my comment it said "...I don't know who else could have possible have written my comment." I changed it because I thought the edit sounded less bitter while still remaining humorously sarcastic. You'll have to explain how that was a lie I was being called out for. But maybe wait five minutes before replying this time, people do like to make last-minute edits in good faith.
Also, stop being a weirdo. Please.
You completely changed your comment after I responded. Arguing in bad faith. Not good my dude.
Sir I specifically requested that you stop being a weirdo.
And there it is. Resorting to that. Bad faith all along.
Yeah, hence "at some point."
Are you familiar with the boiling frog analogy?
Yes. Hence I wrote "at some point."
I don't think you understand the analogy.
Oh I do. I don't think you understand me.
Maybe. But the point of the analogy is that people under incremental changes are far less likely to revolt against those changes. Not that people under incremental changes eventually revolt against those changes.
You dont know when change, small or large will happen. You keep acting like you, who are you to say? There can be days where years pass by, and years where nothing changes. You have no idea when things will pop off.
It's true, I don't know the future for sure. The unstated subtextual disclaimer of every Lemmy comment is that these are all just our opinions. I'm totally OK with you disagreeing with me, as you don't know the future either. Are you OK with me disagreeing with you?
Then stop acting like you are the knower of all things in the future. You can disagree with anything you want, idgaf
Acting like I'm the knower of all things in the future? I made a single prediction once. I didn't even argue on it's behalf. You've just been freaking out over one stranger having a different opinion than you, once. And I'm not down to play psychotherapist with you to get you past that. Fuck off.
Bruh, you dont know the future. Chill out. You aint special.