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[–] xtapa@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

let me explain more to you what his true belief was, which was there was no god aka an athiest

Give me quotes. I don't accept you just making shit up. Without proof, I don't care for more of the same scotsman.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

did you read 1,2,3 ? how is that not as good of a proof that he was a god-denying athiest as your claim that he was misguided christian?

Bro, I'm not changing subject by asking you this, but do you really believe David Miscavige believes there is an alien who visited earth 40k years ago and they're waiting for him to save the world as the narrative of scientology says?
OOOOOOR, that the leader of of an indoctrinating/brainwashing cult with extreme views, whom he happened to be the only one to stand to directly benifit from spreading these idologies that also happened by chance to exploit his followers toward his favor, and give him unchecked power, wealth, connections, and everything.... yeah... you think mega-cult leaders also believe they're good christians who sincerly sperding god's word but it just happened that god's word was to tell his followers to buy him a private jet, but really on the inside, he belives all of he is preaching?

Well, I don't accept you trying to give me the same bullshit that a CERTIFIED PSYCHOPATH is selling his exploited followers. WITHOUT PROOF, I don't care for more of this bullshit scotsman. Criminal conciousless psychopaths "Christian preachers" with $600millions in their account who fuck kids and pay off anyone who tries to stand in their way ..., or WORSE IN HITLER'S CASE, someone who killed 6 millions people, ARE BAD PEOPLE with too-much-high conflict of intrest for me to believe anything they say especially if they USE IT TO JUSTIFY their atrocities and DIRECTLY BENIFIT from it. YEAH, I belive that alone is a huge indicator that man does not belive in a god and selling you bullshit.

Another qouestion before I end this, do you believe tha Trump believes that he cares and looks after his MAGA cult? by unequeviliantly gritfting billions of dollars off them in proven, predesigned, intentional scams in rugbulled crypto and fake merch and how he exploit their support to pass bills that benifit him and his group but hurt the same MAGA people he is selling his messages to? Well... good for you if belive Trump as well.

Go on and on, the examples are endless. Hitler was an athiest, and I don't accept his shit claim being a christian delivering god's message because it's stupid. Is what i'm saying subjective? Yes I already told you, and so is your bullshit stupid claim that hitler was not an athiest.

[–] xtapa@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

did you read 1,2,3 ?

Yes, I did, and they are the same stuff I already adressed, so there is no need to do it again.

how is that not as good of a proof that he was a god-denying athiest as your claim that he was misguided christian?

You clearly don't understand what proof is. All you do is point to something, then in a wordy way, say "a christian would not do that." That is not proof. That is pretending to know what approximately 2.38 billion people in the world would do - not to mention the dead ones. It's absolutely stunning that you are not capable of understanding that.

but do you really believe David Miscavige believes there is an alien who visited earth 40k years ago and they’re waiting for him to save the world as the narrative of scientology says

Once again: I can't read minds, and neither can you. And unless he says otherwise, we have to take his word for this. Is it a weird tale? Sure! Is it any more weird than christian tales? Absolutely not! So, by your logic, just because I cannot understand that a person actually believes all that god bogus, should I now consider each and every religious person to be lying? Every pope? Every priest? Every nun? Everyone of my neighbours? All liars and actually atheists? Tell me.

WITHOUT PROOF

I gave you the proof. Or you could get yourself a copy of "Mein Kampf" and find the proof I pointed to first hand.

I don’t care for more of this bullshit scotsman.

Not my fault that's the only tool in your box.

and so is your bullshit stupid claim that hitler was not an athiest.

Except, I have proof to point to. You only have denial and self delusion.