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These are farmers that i miss. The ones who dgf about the federal government and just want to be off the grid doing farm stuff.
It actually makes sense to not notice them because they are off the grid in the true sense, no such person would announce their current statr on social media.
Don't they just want to keep it to themselves? That's what it'd look like
It frustrates me that the independent, “keep to myself and don’t trust the government” personalities love gas/oil and not solar panels/batteries. Can’t remember a time we invented a war in the Middle East to steal their sunlight.
I’ve been in the Middle East recently and let me tell you - they are FAR ahead of the West in terms of solar and geothermal. They know what’s up (the end of oil and climate catastrophe) and they are moving to solar and geothermal FAST. Don’t get me wrong they are still car dependent, and they will still milk oil for everything it’s worth, but solar and geothermal (for cooling in their case) is everywhere on the Arabian peninsula. Just saying.
Makes sense. You don't get high off your own supply. Norway is all about electric vehicles, too.
I hope to be an old crotchy man someday and when I am ill change that.
I'm working on it too. I'm part way there. (47 year old telecommuting engineer and off grid homesteader hoping to retire to do farm stuff full time as soon as I can)
Once our little fossil-fueled civilizational experiment comes to a halt, most of us will be, like it or not.
You apparently didn't hear about Renewables.
Isn’t it some form of renewables? Growing food with the sun.
Though I prefer to just water edible wild stuff occasionally instead of putting to much energy in growing it intentionally.
Have you ever tried growing... anything? Do you have any idea what that's like without chemical pesticides and fertilizers?
There's a reason agriculture used to occupy most of people's time.
I have gardened without gas, fertilizer or pesticides for years.
We should have reserved fossil fuels for medicine, chemical, and other uses. Now we are screwed.
We have grown potatoes, and they did fine, until some stupid new moth made holes in like 2/3 of our potatoes.
We used fertilizer and pesticide pellets when planting. I don't know much, I was not the one doing the planning.
Yes, we have some plants in our garden. But my mom does the planting and weed control.
What I’m referencing is that I’m eating wild strawberries, which I just water. It’s only a few here and there, but the big intentionally grown strawberries were mostly eaten by snails, despite my mom trying to kill them with snail pellets.
I also harvest wild oregano and spearmint, that all grows well.
The rest, which was planted, requires a lot of watering. Though that’s a good opportunity for me to get outside. But on a big field that would take a lot longer and be more annoying. Unless it’s raining that’s certainly something you have to do every day.
I’m not sure if my mom used some fertilizer, she sometimes does. But our main fertilizer is compost, though that’s definitely a lot of work and won’t scale neither.
But back to renewables… that should still improve the situation, since it allows at least automated irrigation and such. For big fields plowing doesn’t work with electric tractors yet afaik
I guess most of historical civilizations heard of renewables. Why didn't they have intercontinental flights and chemical fertilizers with a population of 8 billion?
Do you honestly think we're going to wave a magic wand and pooff, same lifestyle but with sunshine?
What's coming in the next 50 years will make the 21st century so far look like a picnic in the park.