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The first American academics fleeing Donald Trump's America for France have arrived.

Aix-Marseille University last week introduced eight U.S.-based researchers who were in the final stage of joining the institution's “Safe Place for Science" program, which aims to woo researchers who have experienced or fear funding cuts under the Trump administration. AMU offers the promise of a brighter future in the sun-drenched Mediterranean port city.

While both France and the European Union have launched multimillion-euro plans to woo researchers across the pond since Trump assumed the U.S. presidency in January, AMU's initiative was the first of its kind in the country — meaning the eight researchers who were welcomed are the first academic refugees planning to trade the United States for France.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (29 children)

Lower wages and lower research budgets in Europe are very tangible problems.
The reason USA attract so many high level scientists and researchers, is that they throw more money at it.

Despite that, I'm sure most researchers will find that you can do more with less here in Europe, both on research and with your private economy. And quality of life seems to me to be miles ahead compared to USA.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Cost of living is significantly lower, and the social safety net means you don't need as much anyway.

My gut feel is wages are so much higher in the US because everyone is responsible for looking after themselves if life turns on them, so you're obliged to stockpile wealth in case you're suddenly jobless or have a giant medical or education bill to contend with.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 60 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

This. People can make more in the US because the country doesn't give a fuck about it's people. It's like gambling the health and wellness of you and your family to horde up some Cash.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

as if anyone in America is saving their money 🤣

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

There absolutely are. There are a lot of people at the top (not even billionaires) that are making tons of money as the working class suffer.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 28 minutes ago

Yeah. The top 1% of incomes is generally $500K - $1M depending on which site I look at.

In the eyes of billionaires, people at that level are just poors that get paid too much to keep them humble, but with respect to regular incomes they are the rich people building investment portfolios in things like stocks and being a landlord to 5-10 units.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

it is people, indeed

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We call it savings, not hoarding. But yeah. You need it. If you lose your job here, you’re fucked.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

One illness and it’s all gone. House, kit and kaboodle.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

For a lot of people in this country it's hording.

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