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How to say Marx was right without saying "Marx was right".

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Saying we have failed is the easiest thing to say.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Because its true?

Barely anything had been done these past decades and the result is that boat loads of people now believe conspiracy crap over the actual truth that climate change will milk us all

I fully expect that even less will be done in the next years so yeah, were screwed

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fight for climate change is not lost, it's still actively being fought by scientists, entrepreneurs, content creators, journalists and activists all over the planet.

Oil companies like this narrative of lost. It was always, don't worry we still have time until now when it's leaning towards "whoopsie too late". It's not too late, we are not all going to die because of climate change.

Right now climate change is on track to be horrible for large parts of the world but there's plenty more we can fuck up beyond that.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is also the potential for climate solutions. We have been driving things in one direction by pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. There are ways to do the opposite rapidly, just not as easy. Solar/Wind/Nuclear powered carbon sequestration and ocean fertilization are possible if all else is lost.

Happy to discuss realistic impactful solutions rather than just cycling doomerism with anyone interested.

I mean, that's the thing. We all know there are solutions. But governments and billionaires at this point have to make the solutions happen, and they have no interest in many places. Hell, they're actively working on behalf of climate change and environmental destruction in the US just to own the Libs and to the cheers of the rabid troglodyte portion of its populace. You don't just have to contend with getting the facts to people, you have to contend with being but one voice amid all the antifacts that everyone is bombarded daily on every topic.

I know I'm a doomer, but sans an effective virus that takes out 80% of the population and mostly targets anyone right of center and all of the billionaires, I don't think we have this one in us.

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