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I think the only other famed civilisation that ate only meat was the American plains Indians who ate bison and were only defeated by the destruction of the buffalo (bison) herds.
Those people were described as more magnificent that European nobles in their finery. Now they're less healthy than European Americans, as they eat modern foods.
Indigenous Australians too ate little other than meat and insects. Australia has so few native plants that are edible, and most of those are in the tropics, but the British invasion of Australia was only 200 years ago, they had rifles and the Indigenous Australians were in the stone age. Paintings and drawings of Aboriginal men from the early days of British rule show they were tall men of impressive physique.
The Mongols were lucky that the people they were fighting didn't have guns yet, back when being stronger and taller mattered.
It's possible the mongols had a key role in the history of gunpowder https://warhistory.org/@msw/article/the-mongol-wars-and-the-evolution-of-the-gun-1211-1279
The theory that they spread the knowledge and concept across their empire is interesting
So wow, they probably did have guns pointed at them in their Chinese wars
Yeah... maybe explosive arrows to start with. But I think its credible they exported the war technology for their other conquests. The mongols are so fascinating. I love the Dan Carlin Hardcore History episodes on them.
The explosives described in that paper were pretty legit
And yeah, I'm disappointed Dan Carlin hasn't released much lately. Wrath of the Khans was an excellent series
I have followed him for quite a while and have an archive of his episodes from 1 to 56 (and this recommended me to grab 57 to 72 before they go subscription only)
It's one of the few podcasts I re-listen to
Yeah he seems to take longer and longer for episode, kind of like GRRM
Do you want a copy of my archive? It's all of HH and addendums
Thanks for the offer! I think I have the full archive already. Great to listen to while on the road
Episode isn't over but I've arrived? Just keep driving some more
Some of those are so long I'd end up in a different city! Australian cities are very very spread out