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[–] Keld@hexbear.net 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

So how does this account for statements like

The average American is an exploited colonial subject.

and

The average Western European materially benefits from the spoils of imperialism and lives a high quality life because of it.

Because those are of course literally statements that the quality of life is what makes the difference between coloniser and colonised, completely ignores any power relation, and of course directly says that the average american is exploited by an imperial machine centered around Europeans. I can read, you can read, why are you lying?

edit:

Welfare states are absolutely a sign of imperial coredom, for the simple fact their continued existence implies a lack of western bombs and coup attempts, operate your analysis historically not mechanically

Ok well my historical analysis tells me that the US didn't neglect to distribute its superprofits to its population because it feared being nuked by the US.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You have the obtuseness of a wrecker troll and you're a 3 month old account, hmmmmm fry

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah man it's wrecking to say that "The average American is a colonial subject" is a silly statement, my bad.

Edit: I just don't find your argument of "Actually the thing that was said isn't what was said, and if you take my totally made up version of the thing that was said and interpret it using a heuristic that wasn't applied then actually it means something else. Also btw imperialism isn't about capital relations but about whether there's a functional welfare system. You're such a wrecker for not getting that" very convincing.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There it is again, that obtuseness, that brain-dead caricaturization, 3 month old account huh?

What, did you think coming in here spouting half-baked simulacra of anti-Americanism while mentioning (not quoting) Settlers was gonna be decent camouflage to troll the lefties? Nice try

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is genuinely pathetic on your part, you know that right?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure that worked well on reddit hasan-ok-dude

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure man I'm a troll-wrecker-redditor-infiltrator trying to bring down hexbear from within, I've set up my 3 month long sting operation and I'm ready to strike with my master plan of pointing out that I don't think the average American is an exploited colonial subject of Belgian overlords.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

American isn't an exploited colonial subject of belgian overlords

It's been explained to you multiple times that wasn't the original commenters point, and yet you keep responding with escalating caricatures and bad faith interpretations of other Hexbear's arguments

You're a troll or you're a dumbass who can't read or infer, but I'm putting my money on troll

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Whereas I am just sure you're a dumbass who can't take being disagreed with. And of course unlike your silly bullshit, I have evidence in the form of the things you have actually said.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 0 points 19 hours ago

Btw this is what I mean when I say that the United States barely counts as part of the imperial core

Western Europe is the imperial core. The average Western European materially benefits from the spoils of imperialism and lives a high quality life because of it. The average American is an exploited colonial subject.

The United States is still a colony, the European Empires just consolidated and moved their headquarters to the colony

lmao you don't know how to infer, in the first sentence they're talking about Internal Colonialism Theory and the history of US settler colonialism in general; in the second they're talking about US ELITES and their settler heritage, what exactly do you think words like "consolidated" and "moved their headquarters" is referring to? Davos? Could it possibly be a fuckin reference to US colonial history?

What did you say in an earlier comment, you think they're talking about "Belgians" you dumb fuck lmao? About European citizens controlling America? Like another commenter told you "BE FOR REAL", that's why you're obtuse and most likely a troll....definitely a wrecker

Also you didn't know anything about Internal Colonialism Theory, or it's relationship to Settlers, and you didn't comment when I corrected you on it

You had nothing to say about Differential Segregation theory, so obviously you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, so kick rocks troll, I gave you a half dozen good faith replies and all I got back was "baaah you think Belgians rule America ha ha"