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I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And here lies my point. A vast majority of people don't think its hate speech. And a vast majority of people believe free speech supersedes hate speech.

Actually, a vast majority of people don't support being a shitbag to other people. You're confusing popular sentiment with the whims of the conservative elite. If you don't just hide in right wing echo chambers all the time you might be surprised to find out how unpopular your terrible views are.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I frequent many forums both digital and physical under a multitude of identities and the only ones who despise free speech are the extreme left. Pretty much everyone likes it. Lemmy is the most echo chambery of all the places I visit.

If your views are so popular how did trump win the election? Why have almost all right wing parties across Europe gotten a larger percentage of the vote? Why did almost every state in the us shift more right in the last election? These are the facts. You are objectively wrong

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Those are not facts. You are wrong. Nice try though.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've provided more facts to support my claim than you have for yours. I've provided nothing, whereas you have actively lied about the nothing you've brought forth. I don't need to prove anything to you.

Not that I could, conservatives don't think anyway, and you can't logic someone out of a position they felt their way into.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Alright I'll bite: https://yonkersobserver.com/early-results-show-a-red-shift-across-the-u-s/

Proof almost all the us moved right in the last election.

https://www.statista.com/chart/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/

Proof of my Europe claim.

Here's the important charts for ya 1000007942

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Prove me wrong

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

See, you don't read.

Me: I don't need to prove anything to you.

You: Prove me wrong.

Like, no. You can't even read and parse one paragraph, and you want me to compile a bunch of research you won't understand? You want me to explain the difference between a scant majority of the population who decided to and were permitted to vote and a vast majority of all people everywhere to someone who struggles with basic reading? What a laugh.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Shifting the goalposts.

I made 2 claims u said I was wrong because my claims where wrong I proved my claims where true. Now ur refusing to provide evidence to support your claims. Engage in good faith. Stop being a hypocrite. Have some honour lest I lose what little respect I used to have for u.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to be confused. This isn't a debate.

Ahh so what's it meant to be?