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[–] toppy@lemy.lol 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

True. If germany wouldn't have started the war or would engage in limited warfare then nazi germany would have existed till now. Europe is lucky in the sense that USA and europe are separated by a big ocean. Otherwise USA politics would have affected europe. Also USA can remain isolated for a long time. And this makes it dangerous for people living there. Because europe and other countries cannot force USA to change its internal rules or cannot advise USA about its internal affairs.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If germany wouldn't have started the war or would engage in limited warfare then nazi germany would have existed till now.

They definitely won't survive until now. Little known fact that most people are unaware of post-war is that Nazi Germany was on brink of another economic collapse in 1939 because of excessive government spending. The pillage of resources from their conquered territories gave them small injection of wealth to keep themselves going for a while. Even if Nazi Germany went fully isolationist and engaged in limited war (which I think is even impossible), eventually their poor policies will cause their own demise.

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, because I don't know enough details about their economy at that time, but people have been saying that about the US economy for decades and it hasn't happened yet (not that I think it wouldn't under Trump, because he's really going nuts on it, but...).

Do you have anything you can point to that makes the case that the situation was so precarious that collapse was inevitable, or just that they were precarious (as the US has been since GWB at least)?