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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The reasoning is the important part of why these two opinions exist. The right has no replacement for the labor so when shit inevitably hits the fan and we end up with at best shortages at worst artificial holodomor style famine they will have been the cause. The left is generally smart enough that as a whole even if they hate the system they aren't stupid enough to more or less collapse it without at least a fallback system if not an outright replacement.

It's the type of irony that occurs with reactionaries on occasion where they attack an actual problem but it's done in such a fucking asinine way where that problems traditional opponents have to defend it.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk man... If they can't have millionaire agricultural landowners without an unregistered, unrepresented, underpaid workforce, maybe they shouldn't have them.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes they shouldn't exist, that wasn't my point. My point is collapsing the agricultural industry like a fucken smooth brained stalinist is fucking stupid, reform is needed but the current situation is going to get people killed if things go badly enough. I'd love nothing more than to turn these farms into co-ops but that isn't what's happening.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Guess I'm coping. I would assume that the food security conscious response would be to pay labourers more and give them protections. From the article it seemed as though that was not an option on the table in American politics though.

The gremlin inside of me is also wondering how the most obese people on earth could be so close to a food insecurity crisis that perpetuating neoslavery is a necessary evil.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

American foods are ultra processed crap designed to make the population overeat calories in search of nutrients. Even our produce is less nutritious due to corporate farming practices.

Obesity is more tied to food insecurity than food security here.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago

Obesity is like the opposite of food insecurity

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

It's not just that there's no political will, it's that there's a solid chance the Republicans would try to ban it paying farm workers well outright.

Also everyone is a vulnerable to starvation, if you don't eat for about a month you will probably be dead. Being obese is at best a buffer, that's not even factoring in that a lot of that extra fat can be burned off exceptionally easily if you cut soda for example.