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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The US isn't as important to people as Americans like to think it is.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I mean, I would think "A major country on the global stage was literally founded as one of our colonies" might be a bit relevant.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In Spain we study the American Revolution, as the first of the liberal democratic revolutions, in as much detail as our own civil war. Or we did 20+ years ago. So I guess the Brits do too and the other commenter is just teasing or something.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

We really don't. Our history curriculum is much more concerned with ancient history. As far as I can remember, we spent a little time on the colonisation of the Americas then didn't mention them again until the world wars.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nah, we spend as much time on the American revolution as on our own civil war. Which is basically nothing.

I think I heard about cavilers and Roundheads in primary school, and that's it. No reason for the civil war, no discussion about what Cromwell did in Ireland.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

The empire covered something like 20% of the entire worlds landmass. If they spent time in school for every part of it which went on to become something noteworthy, they'd run out of time for any other history at all.

The foundation of the US really isn't as important to the rest of the world as the US thinks it is

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago

Most major countries on the world stage were British colonies at one point.

Half the world had a revolution from the British. And for world history, the US is globally relevant mostly since WWII.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Nope. Same reasons why Americans don't learn the exact history of countries in Africa.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

you're thinking after the invention and spread of radio, bolstered by the Marshall plan and Rock'n'roll

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

hate to feed into american narcissism but aren't we like bankrolling most intentional federations we belong to like NATO and the UN. I know that the only other country paying a proportion equivalent to their representation in NATO is Greece of all places and they do not have the spare scratch to be doing that instead of, say, the UK, France, or Germany

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well I don't blame you for not thinking so. I can't find our contribution listed on the actual UN website. It's shown in other places but really weird that it's not of the official UN website. Also, all this is subject to change under our current fucktard-in-chief so I probably shouldn't plan on dying on this hill.

Definitely, look at the NATO contributions for last year though. Not specifically to lionize the US but literally Greece who is suffering financially but still like "nah dog, let's be the only place to pay half more of our expected contribution" and then Poland who quietly started doubling it last year for impending blyat reasons.