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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fucking Moon Knight. That dude’s whole thing is killing mother fuckers at the top, he prides himself on being a murderer of murderers and crime bosses and he’s not going to give a fuck what you think of his moral stance, yet at the end of the Disney+ series he decides he’s a fucking universalist or some shit? Fuck that! Moon Knight is a straight up murderer, he would be the first person to tell you that he is a murderer and that he don’t give a fuck how anyone feels about it.

Also, they didn't use the song Dead Moon Night by Dead Moon when there was a dead Moon Knight. Fuck that show.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Steven and Marc haven't reached that point in their character development yet. They don't fully understand who they are and what Moon Knight is. They don't know about Jake. Jake does kill people in cold blood. The implication is that in season 2, Steven and Marc will have to come to terms with that, just as they both came to terms with each other. This is an origin story.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should have made a show about a different character. They did Moon Knight wrong.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not many Marvel superheroes with schizophrenia and DID. I value the show because of the representation. I've never seen such a good depiction of plurality on TV. And I'm also a fan of Moon Knight in the comics. My favourite run is From The Dead. I love the sass with which he informs the somnologist that a Paladin of Khonsu is well qualified to treat dream problems.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It still suffers from the issue this post is talking about. I’m not telling anyone not to like it, there was a lot of good things going on with it but the kaiju battle and not killing the big bad after slaughtering a ton of henchmen was a bridge too far for me.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Movies that are just about punching the bad guy are boring. Like Man Of Steel. Snyder failed to connect the character themes and drama to the action in a meaningful way.

Seeing Marc, Steven, and Jake grapple with how to oppose Amit's ideology, and disagree, is great. Steven and Marc are broken, foolish men. But they have ideals and values. They think the only way to defeat Amit ideologically is to make a stand against killing bad people. I mean, she's a god. She gets stronger when people follow her ideology. Steven and Marc think the answer is to find a way to disable the enemy without killing, and thereby prove Amit's ideology wrong and weaken her.

And Jake doesn't give a fuck, like the more traditional depictions of Moon Knight.

I want to see a season 2 where the three come to understand one another, and where these religious questions are grappled with on a deeper level. As you say, killing bad people isn't always wrong. Perhaps they could have a discussion about how the pantheon exists for a reason, and you can't just destroy one of your gods with no consequences. Killing bad people has its place, the problem is just that Amit wanted to be too powerful.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, couldn't that moon knight be the personality that deus ex machina's everything in the disney+ show? The personality that they show has taken over by the end? (or became more prominent, I dunno', it's been years since I've seen it)

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Deus ex machina is just a fancy way to say bullshit writing that disregards everything. If they wanted that kind of story they should have used a different character.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

I agree they should've handled it better. Wondering who was doing all the killing doesn't really have much of a catch when it is quite literally used mostly as a deus ex machina. Very lame manipulative levels of intrigue instead of actual character development being interesting on its own.