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in theory, yes.
in practice the DNC will protect corporate donations at all cost.
For reference see Bernie Sanders.
Exactly
The guy who regularly wins primaries for his Senate seat and is re-elected?
The guy who never, at any point, won national primaries for the Democratic nomination for President and therefore wasn't nominated for the Presidency?
I love Bernie, but everyone acting like he was treated unfairly by the party establishment when it was the party base that voted against him is dumb. If he'd won the primaries and then the superdelegates chose Clinton or Biden, that'd be a different story. But that's not what happened. He lost the primaries, and the people who won those primaries received the nominations.
Did you somehow forget that the DNC was caught conspiring with the Clinton campaign?
Did you forget that when they were sued over it the DNC argued in court that they have the right to choose who would be the Democrat nominee? And that the promise to be impartial in their charter was a mere "political promise" (aka a lie) and they were under no obligation to actually be impartial?
No one is "acting" like anything. It's a straight up fact that they admitted to under oath.
Did the DNC manipulate the vote? Did they override the primary results? Or did the majority of primary voters support Clinton?
Most of the people who bitch and moan about it didn't actually bother to vote in the primary. I voted for Bernie. I was out-voted and instead of crying and refusing to vote I voted for Clinton in the general election because Trump was too dangerous while a bunch of Bernie "supporters" didn't.
Then they got possy with Harris over her objectively-less-bad position on Israel than Trump's, allowing him to win again.
Show up to the primaries to move the party left. But also show up the the general if you lose, because the reality is twice now people's demand of perfection from the Dems has resulted in Trump being president.
Yes, they did. They clearly and unambiguously did. They were caught red handed doing it and never denied that they had. They argued in court that it was their right to manipulate voters in order to get their preferred candidate the nomination. I don't know of any definition of the word "manipulation" that wouldn't encompass their actions.
Perhaps even more importantly, do you imagine for even one second that the DNCs policy or strategy has changed even one iota? Do you think they have magically and for no reason at all stopped manipulating things in order to get their preferred candidate nominated? Do you not find it problematic that they admitted in federal court to not being impartial and that they are within their rights to choose the nominee?
The rest of your post is irrelevant to my point, those things were not what I was discussing. I was directly responding to your statement which I quoted, but I'll address it anyway.
I agree that people should practice harm reduction by voting for the DNC's terrible candidates when the alternative is literal fascism. I did and so did most Bernie supporters, despite them being understandably upset by the DNCs underhanded tactics.
I know it's a popular narrative amongst liberals to blame leftists and "Bernie Bros" for the DNCs failures in getting candidates nominated who could actually win against the Orange Fascist, but it's not their fault.
It was the racist and sexist "moderates" who were responsible for Trump getting elected, as the data clearly shows.
But let's say for arguments sake that it actually was the leftists and Bernie supporters who caused Clinton and Harris to be defeated by Trump. If that were the case, do you really think it would be a wise strategy to keep blaming them for Trump? Do you think doubling down on propping up right wing Democrats and fighting against more progressive Democrats would be a good strategy in such a scenario?
If you think that Biden and Harris' "softer, gentler, but still clearly genocide" position on Israel was the only criticism that leftists had of them, then you clearly weren't trying to hear what we had to say, and maybe that is part of the problem.
You're just going to ignore the democratic party coordinating all the candidates to drop and put their support behind Biden while funding a PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie right before super tuesday? Plus having their big media buddies run the story of "the Biden miracle" after getting democratic party stooge Clyburn to endorse Biden and come out ahead in South Carolina (the state that went to Trump in the general election, by the way).
Also, the superdelegates made it look like the lead that Clinton had was so insurmountable that it was pointless to turn out for Bernie.
If you think these have no effect then, by the same logic, you'd think that billionaires spending tons of money on PACs has no effect.
Clyburn endorsed Cuomo. His endorsement can't even swing a mayoral primary anymore. Thank god.
I think his endorsement still holds sway in his state of South Carolina, but thankfully it doesn't mean anything in New York.
It held sway in tx when he endorsed coathanger cuellar.
His influence is waning.
People downvoting you: "no, not like that".
Hi, I'm a lifelong DNC voter, I think Mamdani is cool and he even got congratulated by Bill Clinton, so I don't think the DNC you're talking about really exist in any sizable number. Also, if we cared about corporate donations we, the DNC, wouldn't have outlawed them for 7 years until the Citizens United SCOTUS decision brought it back.
I think the nail in Cuomo's Coffin was saying him and Trump had a mutual respect, which is not only not true but also pissed off a ton of Democrats.
pfft. it's the same dnc that screwed bernie over for hillary; remember when bill got on the plane with the AG?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/04/when_loretta_met_bill_on_the_tarmac_140244.html
look, I'd prefer clinton over trump any day. but acting like the DNC is all hunky about non-dem-stalwarts playing in their kiddy pool is pretty ridiculous.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by millions of votes. It was 13M to 16M.
and it did us so much fucking good.
she wasn't polarizing at all huh? everyone loved her kumbaya
no, half the progressive side held there nose and voted for the least-worst. remember doing that? or did you vote for trump because your feefees got hurt about something?
She would have been a fantastic president and avoided much of the Trump failures. We all should have come together for that outcome.
she never had a chance but was pushed anyway. even when people who didn't like her voted for her, it couldn't overcome her negative baggage. decades worth.
sure, a lot of that is deplorables and misogynists and fuck them, but, bernie was the better choice every which way. even the birds endorsed him.
She actually polled among the most popular politicians in the USA once upon a time, and her husband Bill Clinton was the last president to create surplus. I wouldn't really call it decades of negative baggage. Ffs, she participated in the Civil Rights movement alongside Bernie Sanders.
but by 2016 was wallowing in a wave of negatives
we've seen repeatedly that dems save the economy only for conservatives and independents to ignore that; happened with Obama, happened with Biden. That doesn't justify the way the progs were ignored, arrogantly.
well, yeah, but also, her idol was Dr Henry Killinger. Bernie got arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement (there are pics even!), and never endorsed someone who murdered thousands of innocent cambodians.
Bernie lost the primary ten years ago.
Get over it.
Oh yes of course, the party has changed so much in that time! We had the radical communist Biden elected and all our progressive policies were implemented cementing the democrats victories for a decade to come.
OH wait, it's still the same party trying to screw over progressives at every turn? You say Obama got on the phone and got all the other democrats to drop out in the primaries in the 2020 race the day before super tuesday and promised them cabinet positions in the admin?
Yeah that sure sounds like the party has changed a lot in 10 years and they learned their lessons losing to Trump TWICE
yeah things have gone SO well for libs since then.
HEY, it's almost like.... MISTAKES WERE MADE?
Or did you prefer this result?
Has it gone any better for the progressives?
ok ok you're on the right path
it hasn't, now follow that line of thought to completion. the DNC keeps pushing half ass candidates instead of popular progressives and keeps losing.
so work it out, you maggoty cumfart of a human, come on you're so goddamned close to actual enlightenment
Progressives should stop whining about Bernie losing and vote in DNC primaries?
Democrats should fix the reason they're still pissed off. They won't.
because that expectation is working out so fuckin well huh?
Do you not remember which meme you’re commenting on?
you're either deliberately misreading or having a particularly dense maggoty brain-cumfart. we did vote in the primaries. then we supported blue no matter who. the DNC on the other hand is undermining Zorhan's victory already.
How are they?
It seems he won the primary and they are supporting him.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/6/27/2330506/-Zohran-Mamdani-and-the-false-promise-of-Vote-Blue-No-Matter-Who
It says they are supporting him but some aren’t fast enough for the author.
Wake me up if they haven’t endorsed him by the actual election.
You’re literally making up reasons to be mad right now.
Bro did you read the article?
But now top New York Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are dragging their feet in endorsing Mamdani. New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand implied in a recent radio show appearance that Mamdani had called for “global jihad” in the past. Long Island Democrat Laura Gillen denounced the man who got the most votes in the Democratic primary, calling Mamdani an “extremist” and making baseless accusations that he is antisemitic.
Why let it all happen again? Why are you so fucking apathetic?
I did.
oh yeah the support is overwhelming. gonna block you now, should have long ago.
Can’t handle a slight disagreement?
All the DNC guys released the same agreed on "congratulations" statement because traditionally they're expected to explicitly endorse the winner of the Dem primary for the general election, like Jerry Nadler did, and they're making a point of refusing to do that.