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[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is just "the anti Vietnam War protestors are secretly working for the soviets" for the modern era. There were just as many conspiracies that left liberals were secretly agents of Moscow in the 60s.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago

I’m going to respond to a later comment of yours here for the sake of visibility.

Tucker Carlson flew to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin last year. That trip was financed by Tenant Media - the same group that was revealed to have been financed by Russia for the sake of spreading Russian talking points. Justin Trudeau gave testimony under oath that Tucker was shilling for Russia.

It is more challenging, generally, to show that politicians are illegally taking money from foreign interests because the pathways by which money is publicly disclosed are more well-known. So the pathways through which money may be hidden can also be followed to disguise the source of income. Unless one gets caught.

As did an aid of Rand Paul’s, who helped funnel Russian money into the RNC during the 2016 election, and whom was later pardoned by Trump, at Rand Paul’s urging.

As far as Gabbard is concerned - no money trails, but even her own staff think she’s compromised.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some right wing influencers have already been shown to take Kremlin money

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, and there were plenty of left journalists on the payroll of Moscow in the 60s. They tended to cover the civil rights movement and anti-war movement very positively, does that mean the leaders of those movements were also secretly agents of the communists?

Has there been any proof that the people OP mentioned have any connection to putin? Don't get me wrong there all horrible people, but it's not because there "Russian assets" and if they're gonna go against this God awful war then good on them.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, many of those leaders were communists... But not agents of the Soviets, which was a convenient accusation tho

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe "communist" by the 60s definition as in anyone to the left of keynes then yeah I guess so, but MLK wasn't a communist in any real political sense.

The analogy still holds though, many of the leaders OP is pointing out are regressive right wing nationalist who would naturally align with putin without being agents of the Kremlin.

Both these accusations tend to put the blame of these movements on foreigners meddling with our democracy instead of real strains of thought coming from that democracy that need to be addressed.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, MLK was one of the most moderate representatives of the movement, yet even he was a democratic socialist (even if that played much less of a role in his convictions than his christianity)