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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

*bombs peaceful country. “Now’s the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Laser@feddit.org 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Which peaceful country are you talking about?

I'm totally against the bombing, but let's not pretend or imply Iran is peaceful.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean Iran is, for the most part, pretty peaceful. They pretty much only attack when attacked.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I mean Iran is, for the most part, pretty peaceful. They pretty much only attack when attacked.

What the ever-loving fuck.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Iran is shitty and repressive and fucking awful to their people

But geopolitically they're a pretty good neighbor. The only person who ever got them to be aggressive was that guy, famous romance novelist, forget his name.

Like the Austrian dude who keeps women in his basement but always pays his share and half of yours when the fence gets old

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But geopolitically they’re a pretty good neighbor

Fucking what.

Iran should not have been bombed by this administration. But they're the only force in the region worse than the Saudis for funding proxies and shipping paramilitaries to attack their enemies.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll admit that I'm not very clear on what their peoxies actually do? Setting aside the obvious Assad (which, yeah youre right, that's sure as hell not peaceful) what are they doing with those people?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean "what are they doing with those people"?

They support their catspaws militarily. Training, supplies, and direct action - as the IRGC in particular has been caught time and time again fighting directly in service to various Iranian-linked militias in conflict zones, including Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, and Afghanistan.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies? I mean Iraq for example isn't exactly in active conflict right?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies?

Fighting. Killing. Torturing. Intimidating their enemies and local governments. What militias and other paramilitaries in conflict zones generally do. They aren't sitting around, polishing their rifles and fetching cats from trees, if that's what you're thinking.

I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?

Hundreds still die in ongoing sectarian conflict in Iraq every year, and Iranian-backed militias (most of which were supported and became powerful by Iran's influence in the past two decades, not recently) muscling in by forces of arms is a major political issue.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

Fair enough. I guess I take the stuff about Iran being peaceful back.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

to attack their enemies

Oh who are their enemies?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh who are their enemies?

Most of the Middle East outside of North Africa. Lebanon, Jordan, the Saudis et co, Syria now, hot-cold relationship with Iraq. Israel, obviously; but less obviously, also Fatah. Ukraine, bizarrely enough, which has a dozen IRGC kills to their military's name.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So smaller list than the Zionist terrorists. Who we arm.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So smaller list than the Zionist terrorists. Who we arm.

Israel's current list of enemies is, what? Iran, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and the Houthis? Egypt and the Saudis et co are anything but enemies of Israel at present. Iraq desperately wants to stay out of the whole mess even as both sides trade missiles over Iraqi airspace.

Israel is committing genocide, which is a bit of a bigger deal than 'merely' supporting genocides and destabilizing governments for lunatic theocratic reasons. If you're going to contrast Israel negatively with Iran, use that, not the comparable length of their list of enemies.

Theyre making surveillance tools that harm all the free peoples of ~~middle~~ earth.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

maybe if we overthrow their government for oil money--again--they'll be more peaceful?

[–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

like my second marriage! it cant fail twice i tells ya

[–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I just checked out of interest and in fact second marriage have a higher divorce rate, I'd have thought it's the other way round, like people know what they actually want from a spouse, but interestingly, it's the other way around by a significant margin.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 1 points 5 days ago

dang thats depressing actually. Some people do treat marriage like their video games and speed run them though.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Iran is peaceful?

Damn, I need some of the kool aid you're drinking.

A peaceful country doesn't kill women for not wearing a rapist apologist costume.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can, in fact, do that and still be a peaceful country. That's not what the word peaceful means.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

You can't have peace and be oppressing people, not really. If the oppressed stand up to the oppression, there will be fighting. So, it's more like the early stages of a fight. The same as when you're starting a campfire and you get a few embers, it's not really a campfire yet, but it's still a fire. In this case, the embers may last a long time, but the full fire is coming.

Also, in the definition of peace is tranquility. Oppression and tranquility do not overlap.

I think your take is probably just antiquated and contains a bit of sexism, homophobia, and racism. I don't mean to say that you are those things, but the roots of that take come from that position. You may have just adopted a take that was already out there and didn't challenge its premise at the time.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Peaceful in terms of recent events in the last few days against them.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Words are just a vibe to you, aren't they?

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A peaceful country doesn't kill its citizens.

So you're just an incredibly pedantic anarchist, and we stand together against the fundamental nature of the state?

Im down but maybe don't single out iran; idk if you're a 'no war but class war' type, but this shit is how you get ww3.