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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the decibels a bit for hearing protection reasons

I mean, I've heard that from groups trying to pass laws to get rid of the tax stamp, but in all honesty everyone I've known who has a suppressor only has one because they think they are cool.

I mean you still have to wear hearing protection with them, especially if you're at a range where the vast majority of people aren't using a suppressor.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Right now, the market for them is distorted by the tax stamp. Only a few people bother with the paperwork and fee (even though it's been highly streamlined in recent years). That means companies producing them have to make up their costs with high prices rather than volume. It's almost a stealth tax on top of the stated tax.

That results in only a few well off people getting them. This has little overlap with skill or appreciation for the hobby.

Drop them from the NFA, and now everyone with a 3D printer can just run one off. Even in traditional manufacturing, you have a much larger customer base, and the company can sell on volume rather than high prices.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Right now, the market for them is distorted by the tax stamp. Only a few people bother with the paperwork and fee (even though it's been highly streamlined in recent years). That means companies producing them have to make up their costs with high prices rather than volume. It's almost a stealth tax on top of the stated tax.

Oh I agree, I'm not saying that the system we have is great. I just don't think the majority of people are buying suppressors because of the added hearing protection.

Personally I just don't see the point of suppressors. Maybe if I had a bunch of land or something and got to shoot by myself all the time. But me having a suppressor isn't going to help much if the guy in the lane next to me is shooting with a muzzle brake.

The cost of subsonic ammo alone is enough that I wouldn't run a suppressor even if they were cheaper.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If I had a suppressor on my AR-15, I'd still be using hearing protection. I really should be doubling up on ear plugs and muffs together, but I tend to have a lot of earwax buildup, and properly inserted ear plugs tend to compact that problem.

Subsonic 5.56NATO is a joke.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, I double up on ear pro. It's not comfortable, but I already have some hearing damage from my job.

If I ever ran a suppressor I'd rebuild my upper receiver for .300 black out, but I can't see myself shelling out the money for the rebuild, tax stamp, suppressor.....and paying a buck a round.