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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.

This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.

Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?

Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Huh? I have seen tons of articles in Guardian calling Israel's actions a genocide. This is much more than what one can say for the rest of western mainstream media. And before someone says something along the lines of "yea only after everyone started saying it" there are many articles in 2024 and some of these articles go as far back as 2023 Nov, Dec (the Hamas attack was 2023 Oct and Israeli genocide started in October right after this) saying that dehumanizing language used by Israeli state ministers and events unfolding in Gaza are genocidal. I wonder what do you base these comments on when there are dozens of articles in Guardian calling this a genocide.

A consensus is emerging: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Where is the action?

Israel committing genocide in Gaza, says EU’s former top diplomat

Israel’s leaders committed genocide in Gaza and must pay for it. Their political and media allies must too

Israel’s war in Gaza amounts to genocide, Amnesty International report finds

Military intervention must be used to stop the genocide in Gaza

What did you do during the genocide in Gaza?

We’re anti-Zionist Jews and we see genocide unfolding in Gaza

There is even an editorial one laying out how inhumane and aggressive Israeli state is:

The Guardian view on Israel and allegations of genocide: a case that needs to be heard

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They call the Gaza genocide a "war" to this day. Opinion articles and quotes from others are not Guardian editorial.

Here is what actual news calling it a genocide looks like. Not hiding behind opinion articles and quote marks.

The ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians remains, as ever, the clear goal of the Israeli government in Gaza. “The Gazans we evacuate will not return. They will not be there; we will control there. There is no other target. Any other target is a bluff,” Netanyahu added.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You mean tens of articles published in a main stream media since the genocide started all calling it a genocide has no impact? It has more impact than a smaller scale news site publishing similar editorial pieces. It has more reach and it contributes more. Having an editorial article with the same tone is the ideal situation but I will take the former any day when other media fire their long time employees for just a single comic for god's sake. And we know how much international bullying there is to call writers of such articles anti-semitist. So creating an environment where people can publish such articles in a mainstream media outlet takes a lot of effort, resources and shielding. If we are going to race quotes here you go:

Israel’s leaders committed genocide in Gaza and must pay for it. Their political and media allies must too

There was a palastine support march in London about a month ago with almost half a million people joining it and a kilometers long line of people. I would like to think that main stream media allowing opinion pieces calling genocide a genocide has some contribution to that.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try posting them here or anywhere else and see what the mods do with opinion articles if they are critical of Israel.

Israel’s leaders committed genocide in Gaza and must pay for it. Their political and media allies must too

Is written by Owen Jones who heavily pushed for this himself. TheGuardian did not decide to publish that out of their own free will. Owen is one of those "tiny guys" you are talking about. He makes videos against the Palestinian genocide almost daily.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the Guardian did not decide to publish this opinion piece and tens of others from Owen and other authors with similar tones how did all these get published? Did they blackmail Guardian into publishing these? How is it not their free will?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

TheGuardian readers started getting turned off because they started noticing the paper is a propaganda rag.

Why do you think it took TheGuardian more than a year to finally shift tone against Israel and allow some opinion articles?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

More than a year? There is a 2023 article calling it a genocide and zionism. I have linked tens of articles above ranging from 2023 to 2024 with similar tones. I have not seen any links from you that support your claims.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I never saw that 2023 article before. Must have been buried in the back beneath TheGuardian their fake rape claims of october 7

By cross-referencing testimonies given to police, published interviews with witnesses, and photo and video footage taken by survivors and first responders, the Guardian is aware of at least six sexual assaults for which multiple corroborating pieces of evidence exist. Two of those victims, who were murdered, were aged under 18.

Here is the actual news which you will NEVER see TheGuardian publishing:

No rape allegations filed from 7 October, reveals Israeli prosecutor

Gaz stated that her department has found no evidence of sexual violence. “In the end, we don’t have any complainants. What was presented in the media compared to what will eventually come together will be entirely different,” she said.

Moreover, women’s rights organisations contacted by her office also reported no cases brought to their attention. “We approached women’s rights organisations and asked for cooperation. They told us that no one had approached them,” Gaz added.