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Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they'd be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the threat they posed to Israel as a deterrent is severely weakened

Tel Aviv is in ruins, unsupported assumption

They can't use Hezbollah any time soon for a threat to Israel on the ground

Unsupported assumption

All they have is the threat of missiles in retaliation

Unsupported assumption

The chance of getting their nuclear program running at all is effectively dead, let alone the chance of doing so and being able to secretly create a nuke for their protection.

Unsupported assumption

YOU WERE DOOMING

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their nuclear facilities are hit and several top scientists are dead, those are not assumptions.

Hezbollah has announced they will not directly take action against Israel in this conflict, not an assumption https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/06/13/hezbollah-official-says-group-will-not-initiate-attack-on-israel-after-iran-strikes

They do only have missiles for retaliation as it stands, you yourself just fixated on that saying that no comparison but the Battle of Britain works BECAUSE it is an air war with distance between them. You mere hours ago made this exact point.

Their nuclear scientists are DEAD, that is not an assumption, their facilities are bombed and thankfully no leak so the centrifuge has held, but their means of enrichment are disabled.

You are calling things assumptions that Iran had already confirmed. What are we allowed to say? What do you deem acceptable to talk about? We cannot talk about losses, we cannot say the word failure, we cannot speak about deaths as mattering, we cannot speak to challenges with responses.

You seem more mad at me for stating that Iran got HIT at all, than you are at Israel. It is fucking ludicrous. You WANT me to be dooming, you need me to be saying Iran has lost. And you couldn't even respond directly till I pushed you on it. You just vague posted complaints and intentionally misunderstood. Because GOD FORBID anyone look at Tehran in flames and say "that is not good". That is all it takes to be dooming for you. God you wouldve called Stalin a doomer for even mentioning that Minsk and Kiev fell.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their nuclear facilities are hit and several top scientists are dead, those are not assumptions.

There are 250,000 scientists and engineers in Iran and no radiation leak has been recorded from the struck facility, losses are not the same thing as defeat, sorry if that concept bricks your brain

You seem more mad at me for stating that Iran got HIT at all, than you are at Israel. It is fucking ludicrous.

I'm more annoyed you keep pretending like people weren't dooming by claiming Iran was heading toward collapse and surrender, people WERE doing that, also I literally fuckin acknowledged losses and casualties in my first goddamn comment and never ONCE have I claimed Iran hasn't suffered from the attack. But that's a far cry from the doompilled nonsense you're spouting where "ALL Iranian defenses failed, utterly and totally" go ask that downed pilot how much of failure Iranian defenses are

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You repeatedly called Iran's defenses being taken down in places or being nonexistent "unsubstantiated", how is that not downplaying the severity of what happened? So finally you pull up one comment that actually comes close to what you are saying I was totally fully doing. I can concede (that thing you are incapable of doing) that all and utterly are hyperbolic and I take that back. But that does not mean that the defenses did not have major failures. Shooting down an Israel pilot among the totality of that attack does not mean they did not fail as a defense.

I commented that Iran was not going to collapse in response to someone BEFORE I ever responded to you. So I have no idea how you decided that I claimed people are right that Iran would collapse. One person was being actually doomer and I had already responded to them and disagreed with them. Which is why I was asking why you were so adamant that the thread was full of doomerism. One person said iran could collapse, and you didn't even respond to them. You vague posted and effectively lumped EVERYONE but yourself as doomers. That is what I was defending.

And frankly I feel vindicated, because what I was defending was Marmalade's analysis more than anything. And look at the modlog and the horrible shit Thomas said to them. Vitriolic shit calling them a fed and a doomer spreading propaganda. THAT is what my concern was. I was not fucking dooming, I was pushing back at the mob mentality that within a few hours DID lead to someone attacking one of our posters and repeatedly misgendering them.

THAT is why I don't like your initial comment, because this generalized "wow everyone is just dooming, what idiots" shit emboldens that kind of behavior. I have known you for years, I KNOW you would never do that, but I know damn well that that kind of vague posting complaining and accusation shit does make room for that shit. I have been on both sides of that in my life. Respond to comments, don't make the second comment thread within the hour that is just complaining about doomers. Again it becomes "woke" complaining, and suddenly someone starts taking "doomerism" to mean they can just harass someone free of consequence.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

I can concede (that thing you are incapable of doing) that all and utterly are hyperbolic and I take that back

Cool and I already acknowledged Iranian incompetence is a thing and they've suffered losses, now we can move on