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US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
(www.theguardian.com)
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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250429-biden-never-pressured-israel-for-ceasefire-as-israeli-officials-boast-of-exploiting-us-support/
Biden never did anything to pressure Israel. The actions of both of them are pretty much the same.
Why don't you ask yourself why the Democrats chose to fight for Israel rather than their own country? Why did they refuse to take a meaningful stand? It's not like they didn't know/had data about how many leftist voters felt about the issue.
"My job is to keep the left pro-israel" ~ chuck Schumer
"Not actively pressuring" is far different from "actively encouraging".
If you listen to the edgy teenagers you'd think Biden was out there pulling the trigger himself and that absolutely was not the case.
But then they're of the co-hort that anything bad that happens is automatically the fault of the US.
Why do the Democrats fight for Israel? Same reason the Republicans do... MONEY. It's all about money, always has been.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-100-million
"'Very Bad Sign for Democracy': AIPAC Has Spent Over $100 Million on 2024 Elections"
Yeah he was just cool handing out the gun and watching from the side lines when it was used.
You can't seriously still be arguing Biden was doing anything to stop the genocide? Every president before him stopped Israel with a call and Biden just let it happen
I agree Biden could have done more, but that doesn't make him responsible. At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s.
You have to understand, for folks of Biden's generation, Israel is the victim. They've never heard of things like "Punitive Demolition":
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-demolition-militants-explosion-jerusalem-court-b05977502bc2c40e61eb68ab733653b4
Or are aware that while doing that, Israel actually killed an American:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
His actions and support absolutely makes him responsible. He saw what was happening and gave Israel unwavering support.
https://time.com/6340511/biden-israel-history/
Hell he was even doing it as Obamas VP
https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
Republicans were better at stopping conflicts than Biden...
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/13/us-presidents-red-lines-israel
In line with my above comment:
"At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s."
the truth is, there is no “lesser evil.” And as we argue over this and obsess over the differences between administrations that share the same genocidal goals but employ different tactics, the pile of Palestinian and Lebanese bodies only grows
How does saying oh it's okay that he let all those people die, he was just old and still wanted to be the one in charge absolve him of anything?
Why do you try so hard to protect his image?
He didn't "let" anything. Bibi flat out wasn't listening to anyone, Biden was not special in that regard.
The only way you're going to stop the genocide in Gaza is to invade Israel and make them stop. Nobody has the balls to do it.
Since day one, the Biden administration has upheld Trump’s most controversial moves: keeping the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem, recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, failing to reopen the PLO mission in Washington, and desperately seeking normalization agreements between Israel and its Arab neighbors that erase Palestinians entirely. While Biden restored funding to UNRWA, his administration promptly cut it again under pressure from an Israeli smear campaign.
You see how that's worse right? Biden gave unconditional support and assistance to someone actively working against him and ignoring him.
Or was he just too senial to know he was getting taken advantage of while being president and actively campaigning?
Oh, it's definitely worse. Biden was absolutely blind to what Bibi was doing to him.
mainstream media coverage has focused more on Biden’s toothless rhetoric and supposed “frustration” with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu than on his administration’s support for Israel’s war effort. In doing so, it created the impression that a change in Israeli tactics was always just one more harsh rebuke away, ignoring the glaring reality of U.S. complicity
And yet still you pedanticly defend Biden for his atrocious actions and manner he handled the situation.
Manner, yes, but I wouldn't call weak action "atrocious". He got owned by Bibi, not sure why he allowed that.
But the blame for the genocide is ALL on Bibi and Likud. Our fault is failing to recognize it for what it is.
At 81, Biden is the oldest president in U.S. history, with a political career that spans over half a century — one that he built with the help of the pro-Israel lobby. He once boasted that he did “more fundraisers for AIPAC in the ’70s and early ’80s than just about … anybody,” and in turn the president has received more funding from the Israel lobby than any other U.S. politician since 1990.
In Biden’s view, the Israelis killed on October 7 were “murdered,” “massacred,” and “not just killed, slaughtered.” But when describing the massacre of Palestinians, Biden embraces a different tone. “I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed, and it’s the price of waging a war.”
A useful example of the consequences of this is the now infamous “humanitarian pier” that the Biden administration championed as a solution to get humanitarian aid past Israel’s blockade. The pier was a technical disaster, collapsing in turbulent water after failing to deliver aid and costing the U.S. taxpayer over $230 million. But what it did accomplish was to distract temporarily from the Biden administration’s refusal to use its ample leverage to compel Israel to stop restricting humanitarian aid to Gaza. In doing so, they bought Israel more time to starve the Strip.
No, I ban people who wish death on others, your PM to me proves that's the correct decision.
Honestly atrocious is the kindest way I could phrase how terrible his actions are.
I'm not sure how to even respond to someone who is trying to carry water for him either.
It's super simple, you lay the blame where it belongs, on Bibi and Likud. Leave the old man out of it.
or the people censoring facts to protect biden
the old man was why it was able to continue
No, no it was not. As I've already said, Israel's retaliation started immediately on 10/7 before we approved a single dime of aid, much less sent any. They don't NEED our help. They'll USE it, but they don't NEED it.
Israel is always getting aid, even more under Biden.
Then notice the continue part mate.
Also who do you think is keeping the un or any other countries from going in to stop Israel?
You can stop giving them weapons, you can actually try something. If you think us cannot tell Israel what to do then you are blind