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Well this is bound to be controversial, to say the least. GNOME and systemd are two pieces of software that attract very polarized opinions.
I'm interested to see how this evolves. The planned session restore feature sounds nice. With the Wayland changes coming too, GNOME 50 should be a big deal, one way or another.
Ubuntu + Snap + GNOME + Wayland + Systemd
Holy moly, there is a lot of stuff for haters to talk about. Each of these parts are very polarizing on its own, but combined, phew.
You forgot rust 🦀
Oh my, you are right, sudo-rs!!
Are there rust haters? I guess there must be, but I don't think I've run across that so much as the "everything ever made must be rewritten in rust" crowd, and then everyone else who doesn't much care what language is used as long as it works.
It's probably the MIT licensed rust reimplementation of coreutils and sudo-rs
Yes, systemd is a very good and very well written piece of software while GNOME is a pile questionable decisions that uses web tech to create themes and takes about half a second to load up any window. Also the same pile where you've to use 3 different network management UIs to get stuff done. And... where you can't have desktop icons because they were too hard to get done properly OR where you can't have a "disable animations" toggle on the settings to actually disable ALL animations instead of just some stuff while leaving others arounds.
Please consider to stop hating on GNOME or its design choices the very moment it's brought up.
Sure, can they consider stopping wasting money / time actually develop useful stuff? For a DE that got €1M from the Sovereign Tech Fund they're not showing results.
Okay fine, desktop icons can be a design decision, however a “disable animations” toggle on the settings that doesn't disable ALL animations... that's just poorly made software, not something you may have an opinion on.
It is a fact that GNOME is the only other DE (besides KDE Plasma) that has modern features. So, frankly, I don't know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, GNOME's ways lends itself a lot better to the secure by default/design paradigm(s) as illustrated by this table from secureblue.
Do you mean the one that used to be in accessibility? Though, FWIW, I couldn't even find it this time 😅. Instead, consider to evoke the following command:
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations falseI'll grant you that it might feel archaic for some to do this through a terminal. Though, this setting is also accessible through Dconf Editor. Regardless, at least it works as desired.
Even that command wont really disable ALL animations.
Would you mind pointing out which animations are allegedly not disabled?
GNOME - misses basic functionality every other DE provides, still uses the most resources even before you add extensions
Functionality like what?
like the desktop icons, the minimize button, the ability to adjust fonts, change themes, right click menu icons, systray...
Yeah that stuff I myself got rid of back in the Gnome 1 days when you could still customize all that. I appreciate that the Gnome devs came to the same conclusions as me.
I run both DEs on different systems, and they're both good and bad at different things, but they both have comparable feature sets. Their workflows are different, yet you can do virtually all the same things in each.
Minimizing is a tweak??
I'll stick to xfce.
No, the minimize button is, but enjoy Xfce
I think they might be referring to icons next to menu items in the right click menu.
I think those icons can be handy sometimes, but I find them to be massively overused in KDE especially, to the point that it feels visually overwhelming sometimes. Having zero icons at all in GNOME might be the other extreme, but I appreciate how clean it looks.
Blender using icons strategically to visually group related items is probably the best of both worlds.
Oh, that makes more sense. I appreciate the clarity!