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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

How many components have to be changed all at once for it to be a new ship?

If all but one of the planks is new but one of them is from the original ship is it still the original ship, if not then how many planks from the original ship need to be included in the new ship for it to be the original ship?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I don't know, but I know destroying every cell in your body at once is called suicide.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Look at it's like that. If you change out one part at a time, everyone considers the ship the same.

Change many components at once and what you hear? "It's practically a new ship!".

Here, Ship of Theseus solved by instinct and linguistics.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

I'd say that it's a matter of timescale, very little if anything of the initial version of the USS Constitution is part of the current version of the ship but id consider it the same ship just version whatever because it was slowly replaced over a couple hundred years. It's the side effect of "living" objects, though if there is one old ass ship that is 100% immune to the Ship of Theseus it's the Vasa.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.

On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I did, and I remember enjoying it, but that was 10 years ago and I don't remember it that well. Did they have a teleporter?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

They had one, but it was never existential. They had warp, though, and it put them in the same but different dimension when they used it, so Space Dandy’s cosmic energy warped every time he used it, essentially changing him at a material and energy level but not a conscious one. He has a relationship with an energy entity that decides they can’t be with him because he’s literally not the man they fell in love with, and because he’s used the warp so much his energy is essentially changing the fundamental make-up of the universe.