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While I sort of agree. I’m just gonna say, you ain’t gonna find anything mainstream western media that doesn’t have major ties to unethical corpos unless you basically force yourself to only use AP and the Guardian (and even then, pretty sure they still have dodgy ties, just it’s not as visible since no direct “ownership”.)
404media.co is pretty (really) good.
Propublica is an excellent nonprofit investigative journalism organization. They have a strong track record of holding powerful companies accountable and achieving real world results/consequences. They often partner with local news organizations to help give them good content and there's never a paywall either.
Yes propublica is amazing. But I wouldn’t necessarily call them mainstream. They are mainstream amongst journalists, nerds, and leftists. But not really apart from that.
Right, I try to spread the word :)
I'm a big NPR/PBS guy, independent media is always worthwhile.
But that has direct ties to the US government. (And as we’ve seen under Trump), those ties can be abused.
So I agree they are good services. But IMO they still have dodgy ties.
You mean because the holder of the highest position in government is upset about the exercise of free speech by PBS and NPR?
Those ties that we have seen where the government is trying - and so far failing - to crush those outlets for dissent, and are actively being sued for it? That abuse?
What time is the government does npr/pbs have? Please tell me your talking about something other than the grant money they receive
no ethical consumption under capitalism...
You could just avoid corporate media. There's loads of great independent journalism in the West.
Consider The Guardian's campaign against Jeremy Corbyn as an anti-Semite. Or their many character assassination pieces against Julian Assange. These campaigns serve the interests of the Zionist lobby and the US empire, respectively.
If you are critical of modern imperialism and capitalism, then The Guardian and AP do not have good takes on many issues. Currently, The Guardian publishes articles critical of the genocide in Gaza, which is the only correct position to take on the issue. However they have served Zionist interests in the past and carried water for US warmongers.
While they get on the bandwagon when critical mass gets unstoppable they also manufacture consent for empire.
You can be independent and still carry interests of Zionistd and US warmongers, both knowingly and unknowingly. You have every right to be skeptical because of previous publications and also every right to share that here, not trying to argue there, but there is no such things as always having the correct position. Every media outlet will at some point publish something questionable. My point being, you should never swallow news as a definite truth also when you're trusting a certain source in general.
That's a good point. I totally agree. Every news source has its biases.
The scary thing is getting hundreds of millions of people to believe Western news delivers the truth, while non Western news delivers the lies.
Also I don't believe there is a single correct position on every issue. But on genocide there is a basic take: stop it immediately.
They are two examples of more believable / trustworthy western news outlets, I don't think anyone in this thread is anywhere close to implying all western news is true or that all non-western news is false.
Concerning genocide, almost everybody on earth agrees the only sensible thing is to stop it; that's why most pro-Israeli news act as if there is no genocide happening there. I think they are wrong, Israel is committing genocide.