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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I'm really interested on how you think they should move away from a capitalist system, what the actual steps are. If you're saying that they should treat their employees better and make the work culture more accommodating for families, I get your point.

[–] Envy@fedia.io 27 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Yeah their whole shtick has been mimicking American corporatism et al since before the 80s. Aint working out for them.

Actual steps? We have books about that since the 1800s. Usually involves overthrowing the bourgeoisie, arming the proletariat, and dismantling their networks of propaganda

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

They haven't been mimicking American corporatism, they were set up that way after the war. You could almost call them a commonwealth since we have military bases there and protect them.

Edit: Compare them to Puerto Rico except the part about being an American citizen that can't vote, and you'll see that they're very similar.

[–] Envy@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Key aspects of American influence on Japanese capitalism:

Post-WWII Occupation and Reconstruction:
The US occupation, led by General Douglas MacArthur, introduced significant changes to Japan's economic system. This included: 

Land Reform: Breaking up large landholdings to benefit farmers and reduce the power of wealthy landowners. 

Breaking up Zaibatsu: Attempting to dismantle the large, powerful business conglomerates (Zaibatsu) to promote free market competition. Promoting Free Market Capitalism: Shifting the Japanese economy towards a more free market model, inspired by American ideals.

And they're not a commonwealth of ours. If you think the US would defend Japan or Taiwan in the next few years, you're as big of a fool as those that doubted a lying populist like Trump would win.

I won't be arguing any further. You do you chief. Sorry that the facts dont add up and you wanna squabble over things neither of us can change. You seem to have found a good home on shitjustworks, the vibe suits you

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Key aspects of American influence on Japanese capitalism:

Post-WWII Occupation and Reconstruction: The US occupation, led by General Douglas MacArthur, introduced significant changes to Japan's economic system. This included: Land Reform: Breaking up large landholdings to benefit farmers and reduce the power of wealthy landowners. Breaking up Zaibatsu: Attempting to dismantle the large, powerful business conglomerates (Zaibatsu) to promote free market competition. Promoting Free Market Capitalism: Shifting the Japanese economy towards a more free market model, inspired by American ideals.

I think we're agreeing, we set up the Japanese markets. Not sure why you're getting so antsy about this.

And they're not a commonwealth of ours. If you think the US would defend Japan or Taiwan in the next few years, you're as big of a fool as those that doubted a lying populist like Trump would win.

I didn't say they were one, I said they're almost like one. Do you think the trump administration would defend Puerto Rico? He threw paper towels at them when they had a disaster. Again, not saying Japan is a commonwealth, but trump sticking up for them isn't a guide either.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not coming to argue you on your main point. As a Communist, I think communism would be great in Japan, and a lot of other places.

However, you are completely wrong about the USA not defending Japan. Unlike taiwain there are several large american military bases in Japan, and actually Japan is not allowed to have a large military of its own through its constitution (I edited this, corrected)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Mutual_Cooperation_and_Security_between_the_United_States_and_Japan

article 9 of Japanese constitution involving its military

Okinawa is one base a lot of people have heard of, but there's like 20 american military bases there. Japan depends on the USA for its foreign defense.

Since Japan is the largest foreign holder of american government debt (bonds) it might be appropriate to call them a vassal state.

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