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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

It is closer to a hyper loop system. For the internet to have low enough latency it has to be put in quite a low earth orbit. That means we need more satlights to make coverage, ballooning costs. However that is not the part that kills it, it is that it is in such low orbit we can expect air resistance to significantly degrade orbits. There are too many satilights to reasonably boost them all, and when they start to degrade it will be too fast to reasonably replace them all.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 59 minutes ago

Not everyone needs super low latency. Satellite phones exist for a reason.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And they first batches of the current network are at their end of life. That means that with the same level of investment, growth will slow down, which is terrible for venture capital.

And orbital mechanics is a bitch. You can't add more speed to a certain area (like a city with a lot of people) and less to the empty ocean. So there's a harsh density limit to your subscribes.

[–] GrosPapatouf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, the need for internet satellite is mostly in low density areas. In big cities fiber will always be cheaper and more reliable (except maybe in the US where operators are allowed to fuck you). I hate Musk and I guess Starlink is squeezing their monopoly position right now, but I'm not 100% sure they are not profitable.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 28 minutes ago

Maybe a better answer is WiMax.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, the big problem is that by definition most people live in the places where most people live. Urbanisation is over 80% in Europe and the US (and European countries hold a much looser definition of "urban" than the US).

To increase service to most people, you need to upgrade the entire world, which is expensive.

I'm not 100% sure they are not profitable.

I am. They're reporting a profit right now because theyre calling the cost of new satellites as "investment" and not expenses. In a few years, when every satellite launched is a replacement, those "investments" become running costs, and there goes the profit.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 hours ago

That, and as they burn up upon re-entry, they're fucking up the environment:

https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-reentry-pollution-damage-earth-atmosphere