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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You need to understand that lemmy has a lot of users that actually understand neural networks and the nuanced mechanics of machine learning FAR better than the average layperson.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It's just semantics in this case. Catloaf's argument is entirely centered around the definition of the word "lie," and while I agree with that, most people will understand the intent behind the usage in the context it is being used in. AI does not tell the truth. AI is not necessarily accurate. AI "lies."

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AI returns incorrect results.

In this case semantics matter because using terms like halluilcinations, lies, honesty, and all the other anthromorphic bullshit is designed to make people think neural networks are far more advanced than they actually are.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

It's not "anthropomorphic bullshit", it's technical jargon that you're not understanding because you're applying the wrong context to the definitions. AI researchers use terms like "hallucination" to mean specific AI behaviours, they use it in their scientific papers all the time.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nn. It's to make people who don't understand llms be cautious in placing their trust in them. To communicate that clearly, language that is understandable to people who don't understand llms need to be used.

I can't believe this Is the supposed high level of discourse on lemmy

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 2 days ago

AI doesn’t lie, it just gets things wrong but presents them as correct with confidence - like most people.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone on Lemmy I have to disagree. A lot of people claim they do and pretend they do, but they generally don’t. They’re like AI tbh. Confidently incorrect a lot of

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

People frequently act like Lemmy users are different to Reddit users, but that really isn't the case. People act the same here as they did/do there.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's a huge, arrogant and quite insulting statement. Your making assumptions based on stereotypes

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m pushing back on someone who’s themselves being dismissive and arrogant.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. You're mad at someone who isn't buying that a. I. 's are anything but a cool parlor trick that isn't ready for prime time

Because that's all I'm saying. The are wrong more often than right. They do not complete tasks given to them and they really are garbage

Now this is all regarding the publicly available a. Is. What ever new secret voodoo one. Think has or military has, I can't speak to.

Uh, just to be clear, I think “AI” and LLMs/codegen/imagegen/vidgen in particular are absolute cancer, and are often snake oil bullshit, as well as being meaningfully societally harmful in a lot of ways.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

And A LOT of people who don’t and blindly hate AI because of posts like this.