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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich reiterates call for 'hundreds of thousands' of Palestinians to be forcibly displaced from Gaza

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[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So, the Nazi’s sent Jewish people to concentration camps, did horrible things to their children (especially twins), gassed their relatives, displaced them… But they are now doing the same thing to Palestinians? I really don’t have a side politically. I just don’t understand.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

How can you see this genocide unfolding, ethnic cleansing at a minimum of you're scared of using the G word, and still say "Well, I don't really want to take a side here"

This kind of rhetoric enables these war crimes. You've outlined yourself what Israel is doing, and they're going to continue because the western governments aren't doing anything real about it.

The least we can do as individuals is call them out on their bullshit and remind others around us that the genocide they're committing is entirely fucked up and unjustifiable.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

did horrible things to their children (especially twins),

No they only did that to gypsies.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

This is about colonialism not religion

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

I'm Jewish and I don't get it either, every Jew I see falling for this fascist rhetoric horrifies and disgusts me

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Focus in, this the action of a handful of powerful and violent people, not the act of a whole nation with a subjugated past.

The people enacting these atrocities are just as much monsters and the people who oppressed their ancestors.

[–] thescrivener@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

Sure, the decisions are made, the policies enacted, by those at the top — but there is no widespread repudiation of their actions by the citizenry at large, either.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the nation isn't stopping him. He's been voted in how many times. It isn't like the people have no blame.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I've seen plenty of anti-government protests from Israelis that do not approve

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Point taken. And, thank you for the reminder.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don’t have a side politically. I just don’t understand.

you should really have a side by now.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I refuse to take anyone’s side that murders innocent people. Children should NEVER be victims of political wars. When politicians that make these decisions put their own children in the line of fire, then tell me “I should really take a side”.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 16 hours ago

I refuse to take anyone’s side that murders innocent people. Children should NEVER be victims of political wars. When politicians that make these decisions put their own children in the line of fire, then tell me “I should really take a side”.

So you should really have a side by now.

[–] Monomate@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My guess is that they believe leaving the Hamas alive is equivalent to allowing their territory be attacked again in the future. They want this war to be The Last One™ so thay don't have to further spend military resourses in the future doing the same thing again.

A yes, a final solution. Nazis love those, and most nazis were indeed zionists.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

So, women and children, and hospitals, and first aid people are expendable. OK. This world is filled with evil, horrible people. And history will never be learned. Oh, and is Trump going to be turning the displaced area into a resort?

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

Zionism predates the holocaus and modern fascism.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is this an argument for Hamas or Israel.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that an argument for a defence attorney defending a murderer? So, the murderer was hurt, and they are justified? And better yet, let’s hurt children.

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It isn't a defense at all. You said you didn't understand. Abused people (or peoples) becoming abusive in turn is a common process, and that phrase is commonly used in such a way that searching on it will reveal many studies of the process, and what has been tried (successfully and unsuccessfully) to short-circuit it.

Understanding is not absolution, though. You can both see how the genocide of Jews led to fears, politics, and colonial interventions that contributed to Israel's genocide of Palestinians, and also condemn that genocide and those perpetrating it (which I absolutely do). But not understanding the motivations makes any problem easier to effectively resist or solve, as you can use that knowledge to determine where and how to apply pressure and create a lasting rather than a temporary change.