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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't have a gun, it's time to get one and learn how to use it.

...also how to carry safely. Don't be that guy.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Including when to use it. It is a last resort. If you pull a gun on any law enforcement officer, even if fully justified, you will be going to jail at best, and killed on the spot at worst.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is the part I have a hard time with. I want to defend myself and my family, but pulling a weapon on authorities means you're gonna die. These ICE/militarized PDs aren't going to pause a second if they get any excuse to put you down. They might not even bother with the paperwork at this point.

Unless we're in a "take as many of them with you when you go" situation. But that's a different conversation than the "organize and call your lawyer" advice I'm seeing in this thread.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, as an immigrant who doesn't much like the idea of dying, I can't ever see myself deciding to suicide by cop rather than be deported. Being deported would suck ass harder than most things I've experienced - I'd lose my house, my job, be separated from my partner - but still preferable to being gunned down and drowning in my own blood as it fills my lungs.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

So like, it pretty much always makes more sense to flee than to fight.

Guns should be seen as a last resort, not a first.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

believe it or not, you're just as capable of killing them as they are you. train and have confidence. confidence and discipline.