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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 61 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I won't use a phone company that listens to my calls and criticizes me for who I speak with. I won't use an internet provider that monitors what I download or shares that info with third parties. The only other way to catch someone downloading, is if an agent of the copyright holder is uploading the torrent file.

If you hire private security to give me free beer outside of your store, you can't accuse me of shoplifting because I accepted the free beer.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying you have a choice in ISPs? Sounds pretty cool.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My area has around 3 or 4 competing ISPs. (Canada)

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I think they can also catch you seeding it.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming no VPN is being used, to get your IP while you are seeding, they would need to be connected and downloading. When downloading a torrent you are also sharing the parts you have already downloaded with other torrent users. The agent of the copyright holder has to give the copyrighted material away for free in order to see the IP address of the seeders. By giving it away for free while in the employ of the copyright holder, they are authorizing the sharing of the material.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is this true? You actually have to seed in order to download?

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Download something and look at the columns in the torrent client. You will see download and upload speeds. While you are downloading, you are also sharing the same file with others who are downloading it.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

hm, if you set your seed ratio to 0, maybe not though

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Never tried that. I will look for that setting and see what it does next time I need to download something.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I've never tried it either. It would be kind of an asshole thing to do. Torrenting only works because everyone contributes their fair share.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] arararagi@ani.social 2 points 9 hours ago

No, those people weren't using it.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not aware of any way they can catch you with a VPN.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

420,696,969% tariffs on VPNs who let you connect outside the US.