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At a secret workshop in Ukraine’s north-east, where about 20 people assemble hundreds of FPV (first person view) drones, there is a new design. Under the frame of the familiar quadcopter is a cylinder, the size of a forearm. Coiled up inside is fibre optic cable, 10km (6 miles) or even 20km long, to create a wired kamikaze drone.

Capt Yuriy Fedorenko, the commander of a specialist drone unit, the Achilles regiment, says fibre optic drones were an experimental response to battlefield jamming and rapidly took off late last year. With no radio connection, they cannot be jammed, are difficult to detect and able to fly in ways conventional FPV drones cannot.

“If pilots are experienced, they can fly these drones very low and between the trees in a forest or tree line. If you are flying with a regular drone, the trees block the signal unless you have a re-transmitter close,” he observes. Where tree lined supply roads were thought safer, fibre optic drones have been able to get through.

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[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 17 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

this sounds so stupid but it might work

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They do work. They've been using them to blow up tanks.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Sure. But it just might still work.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

At first I imagined the drone dragging its cable and that seemed terrible, but then I realized they’re carrying a spool and they let cable out as they go. That’s actually brilliant and absolutely could work. 12 miles of cable. Only thing is it adds weight so you can’t deliver as much explosive payload.

[–] SparroHawc@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Honestly, it's old tech. There were guide-by-wire missiles for a long time before this.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I build some (they aren't in Ukrainian hands yet, but will be - if they want them, because they're advancing super fast and could be many steps ahead). There is no "might", they work.

10 kilometers of fiber weighs 1.5 kg, less if you buy fancier kinds of fiber. A drone with 10-inch props lifts this without problems. You can bend the fiber around a pencil and only experience degraded signal. Only a 90-degree bend will make it snap. In the war zone, landscapes after some battles already resemble "attack of the spiders" movies.

In peace time, the challenge is finding a farmer who allows using their field to test this. Promising to reel everything in and pay for damaged crops goes a long way, though. But sea is an even better idea - easier to reel it back.

P.S.

I am quite grateful to an Ukrainian radio amateur, Serhii "Flash" Beskrestnov. He published info about the early Russian models that were found crashed, and made a big deal about it, as one should. People listened to him and took him seriously, and started developing them ASAP.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

bend the fiber around a pencil and only experience degraded signal

Interesting. Are you using G.657.A2 then?

[–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

Stupid like a TOW missle.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Like torpedos used to do.