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It has been proven that Trump is a violent rapist. I'd rather have an alleged gang member, who has obviously reformed, on the streets than an insane felon ruling the country like a tyrant.
According to a study cited by The Sentencing Project, about 1% of people released from prison after serving time for a violent crime were subsequently arrested for murder within five years of release. So why focus on that one case, just because it is about an immigrant?
Let me ask you a simple question what justifies the attempted coup? The overthrowing of democracy by a bunch of violent rioters storming the capital?
Nothing justifies that absolutely nothing that was horrible what happened on January 6 and quite frankly was embarrassing that is something that should be happening in 3rd world countries not in America. I’m not some crazy right wing person, there’s some things I agree with and there’s some things I disagree with. The people in CECOT Specifically are known violent gang members that even have the tattoos of their gang on their face they are never leaving they are there for the rest of their life. Which is good because the people of El Salvador can live peacefully and not have to worry about getting murdered on the street for pocket change or getting robbedwhile being on the bus Or extorted every month just for living in a certain community. The people that are proven to be violent murderers and rapist will never come out of that jail. But again I’m not so crazy right wing guy I’m from Massachusetts I voted Democrat my whole life
Through which process was this proven?
The man from Maryland was not a gang member. Why do you trust that this is true?
Dishonest interlocutor,
Only a racist and bigot would attempt to justify harm to someone on the basis of their nationality, or race, or immigrant status by using the crimes of another.
Enjoy this list of murder victims for which you are not held to account, yet enjoy the same immigration status of their killer:
Hold up are you calling me a racist? Or are you saying that Trump is a racist? Because just to clarify I’m El Salvadoran. Also did you just name people that were murdered in America by Americans? Like Ted Bundy’s victims? Dude all over the world people from the same country kill people from their country That is nothing new. You’re saying because there’s American murderers that it makes it OK to also have an illegal immigrant murderers? Honestly I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make and quite frankly it’s pretty weird. Did you really say Ron Goldman the dude that Was banging OJ’s wife? lol. What the hell does this have to do with this conversation? You are literally the same people that say the jail in El Salvador is exactly like the holocaust, And do you understand how crazy that sounds comparing a jail that has literally people that have been found guilty for murder and rape to innocent Jewish people. Oh man
I called you dishonest. I said you committed the actions of a racist and bigot.
The point i made is very simple. Every citizen does not have to account for the murders of their fellow citizen. Just as every immigrant does not have to account for the murders of their fellow immigrants. To make that assertion is racist and bigoted. I even explained how the people on the list were chosen.
You also make assumptions about how i consider the prison. I don’t consider it “like the Holocaust” i consider it like a concentration camp. We shall see if they get around to mass executions.
Also this prison may contain people who have committed murder and rape. But to assign that to everyone who is in there is a category error. In the case of the person we are talking about, there was no finding he committed any crime. In fact he was abducted and detained without trial, which means he is innocent, until proven otherwise. He was not even accused by the trump administration of murder or rape. He was accused of being in a gang after the fact without evidence.
Statement: It’s good to have immigrants, it’s not good to have murderers.
Dishonest American interlocutor,
When you cite a murder by ‘some illegal immigrant’ to justify the harm done to a completely unrelated, legally present individual, your justification does not discriminate. That’s collective punishment by nationality—by definition, bigoted and racist. I never called you those things; I called you dishonest. Your words speak for themselves.
Given that the previous sentence says the opposite, I can’t tell - is this a typo?
Also, what would change if they gave each gang member a trial and showcased their crimes before sending them off? Skipping due process and failing to share any evidence publicly smells very much like they were not actually criminals to me.
You’re right, we should use our biases and opinions about the nature of this situation based on sensationalist news instead of due process.