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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who said it was limited to elected officials?

Point is that, long term, you either accept that some Republicans are going to be part of any future, or they all have to be eliminated.

It is just like nazis post ww2. They had to have trials and vetting or they got removed from society in one way or another.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I said so, to get you to demonstrate a Republican that wasn't bad. So we could check it with their record. Can't do that with a random neighbor you think is cool.

The point is, we didn't let Nazis rebuild Germany. The ones that could hide it did, but their views didn't factor in anymore. They had to change their views and admit they were wrong. At gunpoint, often.

In the South, reconstruction was nerfed and all was forgiven, and they only had to get rid of slaves and play nice. So they did everything but have slaves i.e. Jim Crow, redlining, sundown laws, etc.

Saying we have to live with the current Republican party will never work because they will never work. Democratic party, they can be changed (since the politicians mostly suck) but as is won't work afterwards.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, tbh, I'm not into playing with that side of things, sorry.

However, I never said we have to live with the current Republican party members. We don't, and that's actually part of the point.

If we assume two things, that Republicans are "bad", and that allowing the current direction of the country to continue is unsustainable, then it comes down to "what do we do with them?"

There's only a small number of options. The most extreme is getting rid of them entirely, just eradicating them. The least extreme would be imprisonment of all of them. They're bad lock, stock and barrel. No redemption possible, no room for nuance, no room for mercy.

If that's the argument you're going for, great. The original screenshot was about two people arguing about whether or not applying the assumption of wrongness across the board is acceptable. It's in this community, which indicates that OP believes that the argument against applying that assumption means anyone doing so is a centrist claiming to be enlightened vis a vis centrism being taken to it's extreme form.

My argument was originally that saying "saying x group is bad isn't a good idea" isn't a centrist view. That it can be held by almost any political viewpoint. And it can. The more extremist the politics, the less likely it is, but that's beside the point.

I'm not arguing about whether or not Republicans are bad as a group. IDGAF about that concept tbh. I'm arguing that if you take that belief as truth you limit not only the possible outcomes of a conflict involving the country as a whole, but any actions after that.

It's a choice that has to be made at some point; who is the enemy, and what will be done with them?

So, like I started off with this comment, it's okay that you want to play with the idea of whether or not there are non bad Republicans, you're free to play with that idea all you want, and so can anyone else. I'm just not joining in. Just like you have the freedom to play with the idea that I'm talking about or not. No big deal if you don't want to stay on that topic, I don't doubt someone might come along to explore it with you.