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[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The stuff that gets made fun of by most anti AI people is AI "art" that people try to argue is equivalent to real, human art.

The main reason people hate AI in general is because nearly all models use data that was taken without permission of the owner of it.

It isn't equivalent to bottled water, it is equivalent to the chocolate industry, it isn't essential, so I will wait until an AI that was trained ethically without stealing data is made and doesn't try to replace human art.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That AI is the one you make or at least host. No one is going to host an online AI for you that is 100% ethical because that isnt profitable and it is very expensive.

When you vilianize AI you normalize AI use as being bad. The end result is not people stopping use of AI it is people being more okay with using less ethical AI. You can see this with folks driving SUVs and big trucks. They intentionally pick awful choices because the fatigue of being wrong for driving a car makes them just accept that it doesn't matter.

It feels dumb, it is dumb, but is what happens.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Most people can't host their own AI. The only AI most people are aware of and the models that are pushed in everyone's face are the horrible ones. I think a blanket hatred for all AI is stupid but it isn't stupid to assume an AI is unethical because it most likely is, especially if it is a commercial one tech bros are posting about on corporate social media.

As long as more people aren't being told about the possibility of ethical AI there will be a large group of people wishing for its failure, especially since it has ruined so many parts of the internet, with both a locally hosted model or a model like chatGPT.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 2 points 9 hours ago

I get it, but we should as a community try to be better than that.

AI won't fail. It already is past the point where failing or being a fad was an option. Even if we wanted to go backwards, the steps that were taken to get us to where we are with AI have burned the bridges. We won't get 2014 quality search engines back. We can't unshitify the internet.