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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Also, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Never forget that even though we knew that Stalin was a vicious mass murderer of his own people, we allied with him to defeat Hitler, and it is highly unlikely that we could have done it without out them, or at least it would have taken us far longer, and cost many more lives.

We turned on each other the moment the war was over, but at least we could agree to put aside our differences for the time being.

It is likely that when it comes time to finally put down the rabid dog named MAGA once and for all, it is going to require allying with the Traditional GOP. I despise them with everything I have, and will want accountability when this is over, but if they are willing to assist us in purging MAGA from society, we are going to have to hold our noses and accept their help.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

It is likely that when it comes time to finally put down the rabid dog named MAGA once and for all, it is going to require allying with the Traditional GOP.

Kamala tried that, it lead to Leftists not voting for Kamala Harris because they no longer saw a difference between her and Trump, and Rightists didn't vote for Kamala Harris because even the "Never-Trumper" faction of the party gets in line behind whoever the GOP tells them to. Because Republicans have something Democrats will never have, unquestionable brand loyalty.

MAGA will be not be defeated by cooperating with Conservatives who fear that they "Must defeat Trump to save the party", this is because Conservatives do not have an ideology, they have a tribe, and their tribe must always win or their Gods will hold them accountable.

If Conservatives turn against MAGA, it will be because they've been directly targeted by MAGA and are looking for a way out, and by the time that happens it'll already be too late. "No one left to speak for me" as the poem goes.

That said, the Right Wing portion of the Supreme Court is turning against Trump for this exact reason, they realize that if they don't he will just get rid of the Supreme Court and rule directly.

If "The TRUE Republicans" wanted to work with us to destroy Trumpism, I'd gladly accept their help, but they will NEVER work against the tribe.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Personally, I think Free America and the Allies would be teaming up with the Mexican Cartels. If anyone can terrorize the Trump Regime, it would be them. IMO, it wouldn't be surprising if Mexico and the Allies promise to give away Texas to the Cartels as a spoil of war.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

teaming with what might as well be classified as terrorists, and literal drug trafficking cartels is kind of insane not gonna lie.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. Unfortunately, we live in a world where Project 2025 is being supported by the 1%.

yeah, there is also that.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is no substantive difference between "MAGA" and the traditional GOP.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

LMAO the "traditional GOP" was killed by MAGA.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More like MAGA is the traditional GOP dropping the mask

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Naah, I like my version better. More accurate.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah, your version implies that there was ever a traditional GOP that was meaningfully different from MAGA

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, my version is simply the correct one.

Then again, you sound like a tankie so you'd probably favor a Stalin-esque communist-style rule where the government disappears people on a whim like they had in the Soviet Union.

With that in mind, I'm surprised you don't agree with Trump's policy of sending dissidents to El Salvadorian gulags. Tankies love making dissidents disappear, after all.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Liberals not descend into lazy insults and strawmen challenge (impossible).

Good to know the definition of tankie has continued to expand that it now includes "people to the left of George Bush"

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

LOL again: I don't trust any "challenge" offered to me by some godless pinko commie.

And no, "tankie" doesn't mean "anyone to the left of Bush". It means commies who think violence is a solution. That's why they call them "tankies" - Because they're the folks who think bringing in tanks and infantry to "bring about the revolution" is a good idea. Disgusting people, really.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well you called me a tankie for saying the pre-trump GOP wasn't meaningfully different from the current one, but "a tankie is any communist who isn't an obligate pacifist" is also a pretty stupid definition.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, you're defending tankies elsewhere in this thread, so there's that.

Let me put it this way: Pretty much the only thing we have in common is the fact that we both think Trump is a fucking wannabe fascist dictator. I reject your entire ideology. Sorry, but communism just doesn't work.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a very ironic thing to say, coming from a Libertarian.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nope. A fucking dictatorship is the least libertarian thing ever and I am morally obligated to oppose such a system of government.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you missed the ironic part (hint: it's the part where a libertarian thinks they're in any position to accuse other ideologies of not working.)

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just keep your grubby commie hands off my money and my property, since your entire ideology revolves around stealing from others.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Seems like you're still struggling with that "not lazy strawmanning" thing

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

LMAO I don't trust any "challenge" offered to me by some godless pinko commie.

Also, I'm not a liberal, I'm a libertarian. Your kind pretty much just want me either dead or gulag'd.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it does seem like a challenge not to descend into lazy strawmen is beyond you.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

LMAO as if I give a damn what some godless pinko commie thinks of me.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well you keep replying.

Pot, meet kettle.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You should probably have thought that one through before posting it.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's adorable coming from someone who's ideology teaches them not to think at all.

Anyhow, that's enough from you, pinko.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

You're still failing at that "not lazy strawmanning" thing