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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless you're in California or any other area with a low water table. Then it's a huge issue.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Compare this person’s shower to the many farms growing almonds in the same state.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Just abolished a bag this morning.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

You are right

At the same time

I can’t whataboutism limited resources

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If I was Governor of California I'd push to make it so Almonds and Alfalfa can't be grown during the drought seasons.

I can live without a legume and I don't think I know a single person in my entire circle's circles who has eaten alfalfa.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The alfalfa isn't for humans, it's for high intensity dairy and cattle farming.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

It sucks that this is practically occult information. People have no understanding of the damage they do.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yup, it’s just beef, cheese and milk. Though if you can find them without e.coli their sprouts are good on sandwiches too.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You must also consider the externalities, not just the financial cost that you bear personally.

[–] kubica@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd like to see it that way, but fresh water scarcity is a growing problem in many areas.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have to wonder how much impact people taking 30-minute showers would have compared to corporate [mis]use.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Corporate waste massively overshadows personal use.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.

You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn't make a dent to the misuse by corporations.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I saw an ad from Esso that said you can reduce gas usage by emptying out your trunk!

it's what would be described as "sub optimal use of a finite costly resource"

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you've literally used all the water a city would use in a year.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a billionaire enjoyed launching brand new cars off a cliff and considered it therapeutic would it not longer be a waste?

[–] Weax@lemmy.spacestation14.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

do cars evaporate and reaccumulate in the car supply eventually?